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Posted on 5/3/12 at 2:29 pm to el Gaucho
The 1960's were the absolute pinnacle of musical greatness: the Beatles, the Stones, the rest of the British invasion, Dylan, Simon & Garfunkel.
Music back then used to MEAN SOMETHING beyond drinking and fricking and killing the man.
Music back then used to MEAN SOMETHING beyond drinking and fricking and killing the man.
Posted on 5/3/12 at 2:30 pm to el Gaucho
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they should change this board's name to "the 12 year old board"
If every thread was this lame, they might consider it...
Posted on 5/3/12 at 2:32 pm to Rex
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Music back then used to MEAN SOMETHING beyond drinking and fricking and killing the man.
If you really feel like that is all modern music offers, I actually pity you. You're missing a lot.
Posted on 5/3/12 at 2:47 pm to el Gaucho
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these days, instruments are better and cheaper than they used to be, you can learn whatever instrument easily on the internet, and you have a million ways of finding bandmates. and once you do all that, you can get essentially the same quality of recording equipment the great musicians recorded on for cheap off ebay, record yourself, put your music up so anyone can hear it, and some people might even pay you
these days anybody can learn to play, form a band, record and distribute their music for nearly free.
the great bands of the past had to squeeze together money for instruments, basically had to teach themselves to play or learn from somebody else, form a band with people they pretty much already knew, then pay thousands upon thousands to record and distribute their music. music used to be a full time job and a big chance and sacrifice to make to pursue a career in
If I read this without reading the subject of the thread, I would have thought you were arguing about why music is so much better today. How can you say that because people had few resources to learn and play music automatically makes them better? It definitely made it harder to become good and the people that were good were maybe more resilient, but that makes it seem like music would be worse overall.
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these days anybody can make music and be heard, so where is all the great music?
You have to look for them with an open mind. There's never going to be another Zeppelin. If you're expecting that, or any of the other bands you listed, then there is no hope for you.
Posted on 5/3/12 at 2:56 pm to el Gaucho
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it isn't relative
find me a band from post 2005 that's better than led zeppelin
You aren't listening. It IS relative. I can't find a band that meet that criteria but I promise you my 12 year old niece can.
Posted on 5/3/12 at 3:06 pm to I Love Bama
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You aren't listening. It IS relative. I can't find a band that meet that criteria but I promise you my 12 year old niece ca
He has no basis for great/better other than opinion. If we're talking technical proficiency, Opeth is considerably better. Instead, he is basing it on opinion and popularity, which is again opinion/sociology driven.
Posted on 5/3/12 at 3:26 pm to el Gaucho
quote:Then you'd fit here perfectly.
they should change this board's name to "the 12 year old board"
Posted on 5/3/12 at 3:31 pm to Rig
I love this thread so much. Gaucho getting mad over people gauchoing him. How ironic.
Also, your argument sucks. I like a lot of bands I discovers within the past year more than what some people consider "greats"
Also, your argument sucks. I like a lot of bands I discovers within the past year more than what some people consider "greats"
Posted on 5/3/12 at 3:44 pm to Jester
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If we're talking technical proficiency
there's all kinda better guitar players than hendrix these days
they just dont make as good music
Posted on 5/3/12 at 3:44 pm to genxtiger
I don't really care about answering the OP's question but I will say this about the evolution of music over roughly the last 50 years.
Musical periods and where they stand:
#1 1963 - 1975
#2 1982 - 1994
#3 1976 - 1982
#4 1995 - 2000
#5 2001 - present
Musical periods and where they stand:
#1 1963 - 1975
#2 1982 - 1994
#3 1976 - 1982
#4 1995 - 2000
#5 2001 - present
This post was edited on 5/3/12 at 3:46 pm
Posted on 5/3/12 at 3:45 pm to el Gaucho
quote:Totally correct. Been saying it for years. Go to any event, wedding, guy with a guitar at a coffeshop, what era of music is it? Probably 60's and 70's. Some 80's. I've noticed this for over 10 years. Stuff from the 70's and 60's was just better.
el Gaucho
Posted on 5/3/12 at 4:06 pm to alajones
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Totally correct
have you ever considered that the reason for this is b/c it is vastly familiar to people of ALL ages instead of the 10-20 year olds that fuel the music industry today?
Posted on 5/3/12 at 4:12 pm to el Gaucho
There are plenty bands I would consider great.
Widespread Panic will be remembered as great. Phish will be remembered as great. Railroad Earth will eventually get their due also.
However that being said. I don't think anything or anybody will ever match what Zeppelin, Beatles and The Stones did.
Here is Railroad Earth with some great tunes
Widespread Panic will be remembered as great. Phish will be remembered as great. Railroad Earth will eventually get their due also.
However that being said. I don't think anything or anybody will ever match what Zeppelin, Beatles and The Stones did.
Here is Railroad Earth with some great tunes
Posted on 5/3/12 at 4:20 pm to CottonWasKing
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Widespread Panic will be remembered as great. Phish will be remembered as great. Railroad Earth will eventually get their due also.
Problem is these groups have a narrow but very loyal fan base. It's difficult to stand out today in a sea of mediocrity though. Todays "good" may be yesterdays "Great."
Posted on 5/3/12 at 4:23 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Problem is these groups have a narrow but very loyal fan base. It's difficult to stand out today in a sea of mediocrity though. Todays "good" may be yesterdays "Great."
They may not be considered great today but I feel like they will be considered great in years to come.
They will be in that group of bands that people will still remember in 30 years. That is "great" imo.
Posted on 5/3/12 at 4:25 pm to RogerTheShrubber
I just don't understand why people think Zeppelin were so great. It's all opinion, but jeez, I'm rarely ever in the mood to listen to them. It's not that I don't like them, I just find a lot more substance in other bands.
Posted on 5/3/12 at 4:27 pm to SUB
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I just don't understand why people think Zeppelin were so great. It's all opinion, but jeez, I'm rarely ever in the mood to listen to them. It's not that I don't like them, I just find a lot more substance in other bands.
I love zeppelin but I rarely listen to them much anymore. I think I love them more for the doors they openened up to me musically than anything else.
Not saying they weren't absolutely amazing cause they were but I'm just merely tired of hearing them.
Posted on 5/3/12 at 4:28 pm to CottonWasKing
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They may not be considered great today but I feel like they will be considered great in years to come.
They will be in that group of bands that people will still remember in 30 years. That is "great" imo.
Could be and I know you are a fan but these bands don't have the widespread appeal that most of yesterdays greats have.
I think you would have to redefine great (in a musical/historical sense) but who knows how people will view todays bands decades from now.
It was easy to be different, influential 40 years ago but so much music has been written, performed that nothing really stands out anymore.
Posted on 5/3/12 at 4:29 pm to CottonWasKing
i love me some railroad earth, not sure if i would call them "great" though. and I definitely agree with today's good might be tomorrow's great and standing out in a sea of mediocrity
some other artist i consider really good right now are jason boland, randy rogers band, hays carll, and the gourds
i'm kinda a country guy though
some other artist i consider really good right now are jason boland, randy rogers band, hays carll, and the gourds
i'm kinda a country guy though
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