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What kind of music do you classify the Avenged Sevenfold, Breaking Benjamin stuff
Posted on 3/24/19 at 8:32 pm
Posted on 3/24/19 at 8:32 pm
Its not rock to me, its not indie rock, and its not alternative.
I know some love it but I cant stand this type of music. Its almost like a generic, formulaic sound that passes off as rock music.
What is it exactly? Harder emo music. Is it supposed to be what alternative music is in 2010s?
Im not shitting on anyone who likes it, people have different opinions, just curious as to how you classify it.
I know some love it but I cant stand this type of music. Its almost like a generic, formulaic sound that passes off as rock music.
What is it exactly? Harder emo music. Is it supposed to be what alternative music is in 2010s?
Im not shitting on anyone who likes it, people have different opinions, just curious as to how you classify it.
Posted on 3/24/19 at 8:33 pm to CBandits82
I call it crap. But technically its rock. I don't see how you can call it anything else.
Posted on 3/24/19 at 8:37 pm to Brosef Stalin
There is something about this music I cant stand.
Im usually open to anything, I can even respect stuff I dont like, but it isnt music to me, its like a sound that was manufactured in a wal mart warehouse.
But some love it, different strokes I guess.
I just cant call it rock music.
Better question is who started this sound? Did Creed and Nickelback start this genre?
Im usually open to anything, I can even respect stuff I dont like, but it isnt music to me, its like a sound that was manufactured in a wal mart warehouse.
But some love it, different strokes I guess.
I just cant call it rock music.
Better question is who started this sound? Did Creed and Nickelback start this genre?
Posted on 3/24/19 at 8:45 pm to CBandits82
Avenged Sevenfold rips off 80s hard rock and metal. They straight up steal riffs from Metallica, Megadeth, GnR, etc. Breaking Benjamin is 4th or 5th generation Pearl Jam.
Posted on 3/24/19 at 9:01 pm to CBandits82
The genre is known as nu-metal, which includes most of the post-grunge rock that was on alt-radio in the late 90's/early 2000's before rapidly imploding in the early 2010's as alternative radio switched to a more indie/pop direction. Nu-metal is a big tent catch-all including bands ranging from Tool and Avenged Sevenfold to Limp Bizkit, Linkin Park, Breaking Benjamin, Audioslave, Chevelle, Seether, Shinedown, etc. This is the music that was playing on 104.9 The X when I was in middle school/high school, so I'm pretty familiar with it even though I don't listen to it that much anymore.
Basically, the test is this:
1. Was it made post 1991? If yes: go to step 2
2. Does it sound like grunge (STP, Nirvana, Alice in Chains)? If yes: it's probably grunge. If No: go to step 3
3. Does it sound happy? If yes: it's probably pop punk or emo. If no: go to step 4
4. Does it prominently feature distorted guitars more so than synthesizers, fiddles, and mandolins? If no: it's probably indie pop, If yes: go to step 5
5. Can you understand the lyrics? If no: it's some other brand of metal (death metal, stoner metal, screamo, hardcore, deathcore, power metal, grindcore, etc). If yes: Nu-metal
Creed was probably the first one, but they were really just a Pearl Jam ripoff. Pearl Jam was basically 80's style arena rock with mumbly lyrics of the 90's. Nu-metal is mostly that Pearl Jam radio friendliness with angry lyrics and a little harder distortion. It's basically just even more commercialized cynical grunge extended across another decade-worth of mild innovation amid massive industry formulation.
So, here's some examples of classic nu-metal tracks:
Headstrong - Trapt
Sound of Madness - Shinedown
She Hates Me - Puddle of Mudd
Slither - Velvet Revolver
Wasteland - 10 Years
Just Like You - Three Days Grace
Alive - P.O.D.
Last Resort - Papa Roach
Basically, the test is this:
1. Was it made post 1991? If yes: go to step 2
2. Does it sound like grunge (STP, Nirvana, Alice in Chains)? If yes: it's probably grunge. If No: go to step 3
3. Does it sound happy? If yes: it's probably pop punk or emo. If no: go to step 4
4. Does it prominently feature distorted guitars more so than synthesizers, fiddles, and mandolins? If no: it's probably indie pop, If yes: go to step 5
5. Can you understand the lyrics? If no: it's some other brand of metal (death metal, stoner metal, screamo, hardcore, deathcore, power metal, grindcore, etc). If yes: Nu-metal
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Better question is who started this sound? Did Creed and Nickelback start this genre?
Creed was probably the first one, but they were really just a Pearl Jam ripoff. Pearl Jam was basically 80's style arena rock with mumbly lyrics of the 90's. Nu-metal is mostly that Pearl Jam radio friendliness with angry lyrics and a little harder distortion. It's basically just even more commercialized cynical grunge extended across another decade-worth of mild innovation amid massive industry formulation.
So, here's some examples of classic nu-metal tracks:
Headstrong - Trapt
Sound of Madness - Shinedown
She Hates Me - Puddle of Mudd
Slither - Velvet Revolver
Wasteland - 10 Years
Just Like You - Three Days Grace
Alive - P.O.D.
Last Resort - Papa Roach
This post was edited on 3/24/19 at 10:54 pm
Posted on 3/24/19 at 9:09 pm to CBandits82
i would say avenged sevenfold is metal, breaking benjamin is hard rock
Posted on 3/24/19 at 9:28 pm to kingbob
Nu-metal has a strong rap influence, it isn't just rock put out in a certain time period.
Posted on 3/24/19 at 9:29 pm to CBandits82
I call it "radio metal."
I'm not into Avenged Sevenfold, but goddamn if I haven't listened to "Bat Country" a million times
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I'm not into Avenged Sevenfold, but goddamn if I haven't listened to "Bat Country" a million times

Posted on 3/24/19 at 9:30 pm to kingbob
Headstrong-Trapt perfectly personifies what Im trying to define, that entire sound.
Posted on 3/24/19 at 9:32 pm to Brosef Stalin
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Nu-metal has a strong rap influence, it isn't just rock put out in a certain time period.
rap-metal is a sub-genre of nu-metal, hence the fact that there is a ton of cross-over.
Something tells me you were once in a similar situation to this guy:
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This post was edited on 3/24/19 at 9:34 pm
Posted on 3/24/19 at 10:45 pm to CBandits82
A7X isn’t all that bad. They’re at least fun. I’d call them hard rock.
Breaking Benjamin’s songs have a little more variety to them on their albums. Kind of hard to say one genre. I haven’t liked anything of theirs except some of the Phobia album. They’re mostly pretty blah live, but I’ve seen one pretty good show from them.
Breaking Benjamin’s songs have a little more variety to them on their albums. Kind of hard to say one genre. I haven’t liked anything of theirs except some of the Phobia album. They’re mostly pretty blah live, but I’ve seen one pretty good show from them.
Posted on 3/25/19 at 12:33 am to ShamelessPel
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A7X isn’t all that bad. They’re at least fun. I’d call them hard rock.
Thank you, Avenged Sevenfold has some of the best guitar play in their catalogue of the last 20 years. Yeah the singer is whiny and a straight Metallica ripoff, but they have made some good music.
Breaking Benjamin sucks though.
Posted on 3/25/19 at 2:30 am to Retrograde
Absolute utter shite to the trillionth power of absolute shite x 10000000000
Posted on 3/25/19 at 9:24 am to Melvin
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Chad Rock

This post was edited on 3/25/19 at 9:24 am
Posted on 3/25/19 at 12:06 pm to CBandits82
I’d put them in with the nu metal genre. I consider many of the “rock” acts that came out in the early 2000’s to be nu metal.
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