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re: Was there a better rapper that Tupac?

Posted on 12/6/15 at 2:15 pm to
Posted by Eugene Dogwood
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DJ Deez
Posted by chinhoyang
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Posted on 12/6/15 at 2:16 pm to
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I've got more than 700 of his songs, many the originals before his mom hot to them. I can tell you for certain, that library is nowhere close to empty. I've got at least 20 original tracks that have never been released commercially.


Mick Jagger gave me his tapes of his duets with Bruce Springsteen.
Posted by CornDogCologne
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Posted on 12/6/15 at 2:21 pm to
Best rapper is analogous to smartest kid with Down's syndrome.
Posted by Kafka
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Posted on 12/6/15 at 2:26 pm to
He was as great a performer as you are a poster
Posted by BugaPainTrain7
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Posted on 12/6/15 at 2:29 pm to
I'll be there in the fall
Posted by Makinbacon
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Posted on 12/6/15 at 2:55 pm to
I like too short actually
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Posted on 12/6/15 at 3:15 pm to
Project pat



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Posted by REG861
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Posted on 12/6/15 at 3:31 pm to
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Tupac was an overrated mediocre talent and a fake thug pussy.

He's not top ten.


Ah yes it's the thread where a bunch of trust fund frat kids pretend to know what is and isn't real gangsta rap.
Posted by saint amant steve
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Posted on 12/6/15 at 4:45 pm to
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Was there a better rapper that Tupac?


Are we talking purely lyrical craftsmanship, flow, and style? Or is songwriting a major component as well? If we are discussing other components when evaluating artistic ability then guys like Kanye, as sad as I am to admit this, need to be included as well.

Commercially, Tupac is one of the best, but I would argue that there are better wordsmiths out there than Tupac.

In terms of single artists, Notorious B.I.G. and Nas would be the first two who could challenge 2Pac. However, KRS One gets a great deal of love too. But to be fair, KRS One has expressed his reverence for Nas.

I have always preferred Notorious' rhythm and flow to Tupac's delivery. Biggie just seems more relaxed and at ease, like it's effortless for him.

Meanwhile, Nas, like most from the East Coast scene, always seemed to have better samples and beats.
Posted by Dr. 3
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Posted on 12/6/15 at 5:55 pm to
All Eyez on Me is top 3 favorite rap albums. I dont think I listened to any other album more than that one. Big Pac fan here.
Posted by the crue
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Posted on 12/6/15 at 8:21 pm to
I would put biggy, jay-z, snoop, & dre over pac, but he is definitely in the discussion
This post was edited on 12/6/15 at 8:28 pm
Posted by Groovie
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Posted on 12/6/15 at 8:43 pm to
Yup. Andre 3000
Posted by BuccWildBammer
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Posted on 12/6/15 at 9:44 pm to
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I'm not a huge rap guy myself. I listen to a lot of country and like acoustic alternative rock...but Tupac is actual rap music not the shite they play now




Dig a little deeper in your local music stores crates

Tupac was a poet, an activist for a race and changed hip hop. He may be the best "entertainer" there ever was in the history of hip hop, but he's nowhere near the best lyricist

Most influential? Absolutely (close argument with KRS One and maybe Rakim)
Posted by Retro
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Posted on 12/6/15 at 10:35 pm to
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Who cares?


They all fricking suck cock

but they dominate music in every category
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
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Posted on 12/7/15 at 11:21 am to
Facts is facts, dawg
Posted by King George
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Posted on 12/7/15 at 12:46 pm to
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Was there a better rapper that Tupac?
Eminem
Posted by whoisnickdoobs
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Posted on 12/7/15 at 3:49 pm to
Big Boi
Posted by PublixSubs
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Posted on 12/8/15 at 12:34 am to
Everyone always forgets that Tupac got his start as a background dancer for Digital Underground, aka, The Humpty Dance.

Pac's mom was hardcore.

In the early to mid 90s, before Outkast and the Dungeon got the south started, it was only NYC and the West Coast. NYC had the better producers overall, and the better beats and samples. It was more creative.

I'd take Big and Nas over Tupac. Big and Tupac died young enough that it's all about legacy. Nas' Illmaty is the best album of the three.

But Raekwon's Only Built is perfection.

And if Big L didn't pass so soon. And there's Common who's a genius.

I'm not an Em fan, but his maturity destroyed the others mentioned.

I miss the 90s rap scene. The genre will never be the same. Had it all, backpacks and hardcore and it all mixed perfectly. For those that love that era, Google Stretch and Bobitto's NYC radio show. I'd drop a cassette into my radio, hit record, set my alarm and flip the tape an hour an a half later and have a ton of new shite the next morning.
Posted by Solo
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Posted on 12/8/15 at 9:31 am to
GOAT
Posted by DirklasDaDirk
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Posted on 12/8/15 at 9:50 am to
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In the early to mid 90s, before Outkast and the Dungeon got the south started, it was only NYC and the West Coast.


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