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Third Eye Blind
Posted on 3/31/20 at 10:31 pm
Posted on 3/31/20 at 10:31 pm
One of my all time favorite bands. The lyrical poetry of Stephan Jenkins (with Eric Godtland) and the guitar work of Kevin Cadogan/Tony Fredianelli truly made for some great music in the late 90s/early 00s.
Shame Jenkins' ego led him to basically firing the entire band and thus stripping the next biggest thing of its creative psyche.
Oh what could have been had he and Cadogan been able to stick together...
Shame Jenkins' ego led him to basically firing the entire band and thus stripping the next biggest thing of its creative psyche.
Oh what could have been had he and Cadogan been able to stick together...
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Posted on 3/31/20 at 11:19 pm to facelessman07
You’re right about Kevin Cadogan. He was a huge part of that first album and they weren’t the same after they kicked him out.
Blue had a few good songs, but I actually like Out of the Vein more. Frendianelli showed promise that he could fill Cadogan’s shoes, then he got kicked to the curb as well.
I didn’t really care for Ursa Major or much anything they’ve done since.
Stephan Jenkins is a great performer and has always been great at writing hooks and melodies. I find those to be his strong suits rather than his lyrics. Also, even though he comes off like a douche at times, it seems like he really cares about his fans.
They do a big amphitheater tour every other summer or so, they can still put on a rock show.
Blue had a few good songs, but I actually like Out of the Vein more. Frendianelli showed promise that he could fill Cadogan’s shoes, then he got kicked to the curb as well.
I didn’t really care for Ursa Major or much anything they’ve done since.
Stephan Jenkins is a great performer and has always been great at writing hooks and melodies. I find those to be his strong suits rather than his lyrics. Also, even though he comes off like a douche at times, it seems like he really cares about his fans.
They do a big amphitheater tour every other summer or so, they can still put on a rock show.
Posted on 3/31/20 at 11:30 pm to Gnash
OOTV truly is a stellar album. I've found it to be the one that has grown most on me over time.
It would be remiss of me not to mention Arion's influence of the first few albums as well since he served as co-producer. Plus he's a killer bass player, I love his bass line in "Blinded" from OOTV.
But speaking of Arion, their big hit from Blue, "Never Let You Go" was actually written by him. Well, the guitar part and all that anyway. Jenkins wanted the song to be his so I believe he gave Arion a larger share of the touring/merch profits in exchange for the rights to the song.
It's still so strange to me that Stephan could establish a copyright on the eve of signing a record deal where all payments would be made to him and it took the other original members of the band years to find out. Rob Thomas said it best about Stephan when he said, "He has no soul."
Love his singing voice with the slight lisp though...
It would be remiss of me not to mention Arion's influence of the first few albums as well since he served as co-producer. Plus he's a killer bass player, I love his bass line in "Blinded" from OOTV.
But speaking of Arion, their big hit from Blue, "Never Let You Go" was actually written by him. Well, the guitar part and all that anyway. Jenkins wanted the song to be his so I believe he gave Arion a larger share of the touring/merch profits in exchange for the rights to the song.
It's still so strange to me that Stephan could establish a copyright on the eve of signing a record deal where all payments would be made to him and it took the other original members of the band years to find out. Rob Thomas said it best about Stephan when he said, "He has no soul."
Love his singing voice with the slight lisp though...
This post was edited on 3/31/20 at 11:32 pm
Posted on 4/1/20 at 7:08 am to facelessman07
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Shame Jenkins' ego led him to basically firing the entire band and thus stripping the next biggest thing of its creative psyche.
I think the Jenkins/Cadogan partnership had a lot of potential. I haven't listened to anything since Blue.
Posted on 4/1/20 at 8:04 am to Ace Midnight
Check out OOTV when you get the chance. Some of the best songwriting and lyrics in their entire catalogue imo. It deals with the breakup between Stephan and actress Charlize Theron so there's a lot of songs dealing with love and love lost.
Blinded and Crystal Baller are two of my favorites from that album. I guess you could say those are two of my favorites from their entire catalogue really.
Blinded and Crystal Baller are two of my favorites from that album. I guess you could say those are two of my favorites from their entire catalogue really.
Posted on 4/1/20 at 8:05 am to facelessman07
Wow there's a decent amount of downvoting in here LOL
Posted on 4/1/20 at 8:42 am to facelessman07
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Blinded and Crystal Baller
I gave them a listen. Crystal Baller isn't bad. If those tracks are your favorites from that album, unlikely that it is going to be in my wheelhouse. I'm glad you enjoy it.
Maybe I'll cue up the whole album just to give it a try.
Posted on 4/1/20 at 8:49 am to Ace Midnight
Slow Motion brings me back. Loved that song growing up. Haha it’s pretty dark but for some reason I just loved it
This post was edited on 4/1/20 at 8:50 am
Posted on 4/1/20 at 8:52 am to Ace Midnight
Different strokes for different folks.
I’m just a fan of that big punchy chorus.
If you listen to the entire album, which I’d definitely recommend, let us know whatcha think!
I’m just a fan of that big punchy chorus.
If you listen to the entire album, which I’d definitely recommend, let us know whatcha think!
Posted on 4/1/20 at 10:05 am to facelessman07
Their self titled album is one of the best of the 90's. There's no filler and the closing songs to the album are fantastic.
Blue was inconsistent, but has some good songs. Out of the Vein is probably their second strongest release.
I see them get lumped in with one hit wonders due to Semi-Charmed Life, and it always disappoints me. That first album is tremendous.
It's too bad Jenkins was an egomaniac who couldn't work with others. They had a unique sound that could have produced much more than it did.
Blue was inconsistent, but has some good songs. Out of the Vein is probably their second strongest release.
I see them get lumped in with one hit wonders due to Semi-Charmed Life, and it always disappoints me. That first album is tremendous.
It's too bad Jenkins was an egomaniac who couldn't work with others. They had a unique sound that could have produced much more than it did.
Posted on 4/1/20 at 1:05 pm to facelessman07
First album is great and holds up today. I can't get into their later stuff and I've tried.
Posted on 4/1/20 at 2:41 pm to facelessman07
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If you listen to the entire album, which I’d definitely recommend, let us know whatcha think!
So, the album all the way through - I liked Faster right away. Since it was my second time for Blinded, I guess I liked it better than the first time. Crystal Baller was the opposite.
It's a lot to absorb - probably a more consistent album than Blue (as others have echoed), but certainly not as good at the top (if that makes sense), for my tastes.
Just as a hip shoot - I can see my favorites being Faster, Self-Righteous and, maybe Blinded.
Posted on 4/1/20 at 5:28 pm to facelessman07
MISTER Rick Beato just happens to dissect Semi-Charmed Life in his latest What Makes This Song Great
Posted on 4/1/20 at 5:43 pm to Ace Midnight
Can’t believe I forgot about Faster...
“I wanna get off one time and look you in the eye” is such a great lyric.
“I wanna get off one time and look you in the eye” is such a great lyric.
Posted on 4/1/20 at 6:03 pm to facelessman07
Gonna smoke, pop some headphones in, and listen to Out of the Vein. Y’all better not be leading me astray.
ETA: if they keep pace on this album like the first two songs. I’m in.
ETA2: I’m in. Loved the album. Been awhile since I’ve listened to TEB but this was my favorite album of theirs.
ETA: if they keep pace on this album like the first two songs. I’m in.
ETA2: I’m in. Loved the album. Been awhile since I’ve listened to TEB but this was my favorite album of theirs.
This post was edited on 4/2/20 at 6:40 am
Posted on 4/1/20 at 6:16 pm to Ace Midnight
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Just as a hip shoot - I can see my favorites being Faster, Self-Righteous and, maybe Blinded.
I'm not a huge Crystal Baller fan, but I like those 3.
I'd add in Danger, My Hit and Run, Misfits and Another Life as Out of the Vein songs that are classic 3EB for me. That's one reason I'd rank it #2 behind self titled. It's biggest problem is being a little too long with some filler.
Posted on 4/1/20 at 6:31 pm to facelessman07
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Love his ALBUM singing voice with the slight lisp though...
Look I’m as big a fan of 3eb as anyone on this forum, but let’s be honest. He’s arguably the most lyrically gifted performer in history who could be declared legally tone deaf. And he in his 50’s now so it’s not like he developing, dude can flat out not sing live.
Posted on 4/1/20 at 6:43 pm to ItNeverRains
Yeah, that's a good point. The studio masks a lot of his shortcomings live.
It's funny, even back in '98 when they were touring for their ST, if felt like he was screaming instead of singing. Granted, songs like Semi-Charmed Life are not at all easy to sing.
The past few releases have definitely been lacking with his voice. I'm not sure if it's age or what, but he's not able to showcase the same falsetto that he had noticeably present on Blue.
It's funny, even back in '98 when they were touring for their ST, if felt like he was screaming instead of singing. Granted, songs like Semi-Charmed Life are not at all easy to sing.
The past few releases have definitely been lacking with his voice. I'm not sure if it's age or what, but he's not able to showcase the same falsetto that he had noticeably present on Blue.
Posted on 4/1/20 at 6:58 pm to facelessman07
Glad this thread got made.
Don’t care how cheesy semi charm is that is a beautifully and masterfully recorded pop track. I’ve never seen anyone hear that intro and turn it off. Was an absolute monster that summer. Not to mention Jumper being on that.
Deep inside of you
How’s it gonna be
All got good radio play.
Fantastic band for the first 3 albums, he still had his voice for Ursa Major which makes me appreciate it, but has since been fading a little. Water landing and summer town have his notorious rhythmic singing/rapping style which are nostalgic on their own.
Dopamine has a few actually really good songs like ship board cook, dopamine, Rites of passage and a very underrated acoustic song that brings me right back to the back seat of a high school me in “exiles”.
Their latest album Screamer leaves much to be desired unfortunately. They’re definitely trying to change the style of the band (probably because it’s a different group of guys since the beginning sans brad) and it hasn’t really worked for me. Stephans lyrics always hit the right spots and were beautiful in the first songs. “When we met light was shed” is the opening lyric of Deep Inside of You. And so many underrated ones since.
All in all I listen to them at least once every few weeks and still love going to shows, especially bigger ones where the crowd is better like NYC, but as far as new songs go it seems like they’ve gone a bit astray from how I liked them. All bands evolve though so I get it.
Don’t care how cheesy semi charm is that is a beautifully and masterfully recorded pop track. I’ve never seen anyone hear that intro and turn it off. Was an absolute monster that summer. Not to mention Jumper being on that.
Deep inside of you
How’s it gonna be
All got good radio play.
Fantastic band for the first 3 albums, he still had his voice for Ursa Major which makes me appreciate it, but has since been fading a little. Water landing and summer town have his notorious rhythmic singing/rapping style which are nostalgic on their own.
Dopamine has a few actually really good songs like ship board cook, dopamine, Rites of passage and a very underrated acoustic song that brings me right back to the back seat of a high school me in “exiles”.
Their latest album Screamer leaves much to be desired unfortunately. They’re definitely trying to change the style of the band (probably because it’s a different group of guys since the beginning sans brad) and it hasn’t really worked for me. Stephans lyrics always hit the right spots and were beautiful in the first songs. “When we met light was shed” is the opening lyric of Deep Inside of You. And so many underrated ones since.
All in all I listen to them at least once every few weeks and still love going to shows, especially bigger ones where the crowd is better like NYC, but as far as new songs go it seems like they’ve gone a bit astray from how I liked them. All bands evolve though so I get it.
Posted on 4/1/20 at 7:09 pm to Rep520
Truthfully, the more that album ages, the less songs like "Forget Myself" and "Misfits" feel like filler.
One track that I used to skip all the time, "Can't Get Away", is now a song that every so often I'll just listen to on repeat. The repeating "Ba Ba Baba" is like an ode to the "Doot doot doot" from Semi-Charmed Life.
One track that I used to skip all the time, "Can't Get Away", is now a song that every so often I'll just listen to on repeat. The repeating "Ba Ba Baba" is like an ode to the "Doot doot doot" from Semi-Charmed Life.
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