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re: "STOP PHISH FROM PLAYING IN PELHAM ALABAMA" Facebook Page
Posted on 8/1/12 at 4:05 pm to TheDoc
Posted on 8/1/12 at 4:05 pm to TheDoc
quote:Man you're stubborn. Admit defeat and move on. They are both.
Mogwai isn't a jam band. They are post rock.
quote:While much of their music is structured, they still improvise live. A jam band like the Disco Biscuits spends most of their time noodling and yet still plays electronic music; they cross genres, blend genres, and improvise live. A jam band like Umphrey's Mcgee has extremely technical, structured songs with much less noodling and exhibits progressive rock, funk, jazz, blues, metal, electronic, bluegrass, and everything in between; they cross genres, blend genres, and improvise live. A jam band like Mogwai has even less noodling and is mostly post-rock, shoegazing, math rock, art rock and occasionally instrumental metal; they cross genres, blend genres, and improvise live. While some bands are far more structured and clean (less noodly), they still jam and improvise live over various chord patterns and long sets of music that cross genre boundaries.
Jam bands seem to be more about getting loose and noodling around, whereas post-rock, even at its most chaotic and disorderly, still feels very structured. (Which I think is ultimately why I prefer it.)
quote:Yes. And?
Post rocks roots are in punk rock and ultimately indie rock.
quote:Yes. And?
Sonic youth inspired a shite ton of bands with their music.
quote:If they don't "improvise live over various chord patterns and long sets of music that cross genre boundaries", then they are not. Correct. Experimental band =/= jam band. However, an experimental band can be a jam band.
Ambient noise experimental bands are not "jam bands".
quote:Precisely my point. You are still only attaching the term "jam band" to bands that you consider "hippie" or "Dead-ish". You're behind in the times. Try to keep up.
one of my favorite things about post-rock bands is their attention to tone and sound, which I don't think you would find in a lot of jam bands
quote:Why do you hate American rock-n-roll?
(in fact I kind of associate them with horrible guitar tones)
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Posted on 8/1/12 at 4:05 pm to TheDoc
Yep, its everyone but you who doesn't understand
Posted on 8/1/12 at 4:06 pm to Blue Velvet
You're not going to get him to admit that he is wrong, it would make him a hypocrite.
Posted on 8/1/12 at 4:18 pm to PropJoe
Its funny, you and 2 other people that are phish fans are the only people I've ever heard call mogwai, a post rock, experimental band, a "jam band".
Quite frankly, it's extremely ignorant and borderline insulting.
Quite frankly, it's extremely ignorant and borderline insulting.
Posted on 8/1/12 at 4:18 pm to PropJoe
quote:
You're not going to get him to admit that he is wrong, it would make him a hypocrite.
Mogwai isn't a jam band. This is fricking ridiculous.
Posted on 8/1/12 at 4:22 pm to TheDoc
Tell ya what, when I get off work, i will youtube this mogwi band and make an executive decision on whether they are a jam band or not. Whatever I decide will be the final ruling. Fair and balanced judging of music...
Posted on 8/1/12 at 4:22 pm to TheDoc
quote:
Quite frankly, it's extremely ignorant and borderline insulting.
Are you a representative for Mogwai?
Posted on 8/1/12 at 4:23 pm to TheDoc
You're the only person I've ever met that doesn't think they are a jam band. I don't know why you are so against the term. Does it change the music for you, or is it some pre-conceived notion of who jam bands fans are?
Posted on 8/1/12 at 4:25 pm to PropJoe
quote:
some pre-conceived notion of who jam bands fans are
This is exactly what he is bitching about it. He doesn't want to be associated with a "hippie" scene.
Posted on 8/1/12 at 4:26 pm to TheDoc
quote:
Posted by TheDoc Its funny, you and 2 other people that are phish fans are the only people I've ever heard call mogwai, a post rock, experimental band, a "jam band". Quite frankly, it's extremely ignorant and borderline insulting.
Why do you care what people call the music you enjoy?
Posted on 8/1/12 at 4:34 pm to PropJoe
quote:Of course. If you think all jam bands are like Phish then Mogwai isn't a jam band. But if you know what a jam band is then you realize they are.
You're the only person I've ever met that doesn't think they are a jam band. I don't know why you are so against the term. Does it change the music for you, or is it some pre-conceived notion of who jam bands fans are?
Posted on 8/1/12 at 4:38 pm to iluvdatiger
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This post was edited on 8/1/12 at 4:49 pm
Posted on 8/1/12 at 4:41 pm to Blue Velvet
Phish, widespread panic, string cheese... Mogwai. Totally fits. 
Posted on 8/1/12 at 4:48 pm to TheDoc
quote:
Phish, widespread panic, string cheese... Mogwai. Totally fits
quote:Proving my point. Again.
If you think all jam bands are like Phish then Mogwai isn't a jam band. But if you know what a jam band is then you realize they are.
Posted on 8/1/12 at 4:52 pm to Blue Velvet
quote:Well according to your definition of how to put musical acts into genres, if they have rapped on stage before, they are rap groups.
Are The Gourds, Ben Folds, Dynamite Hack, Taylor Swift, and Jeff Tweedy your favorite rappers?
Posted on 8/1/12 at 4:55 pm to danman6336
I mean since like Miles Davis and James Brown were members of jam bands and everything.
Posted on 8/1/12 at 5:00 pm to danman6336
quote:False. You may want to look into what constitutes a jam band.
Well according to your definition of how to put musical acts into genres, if they have rapped on stage before, they are rap groups.
quote:jazz
Miles Davis
Posted on 8/1/12 at 5:01 pm to danman6336
quote:
Well according to your definition of how to put musical acts into genres, if they have rapped on stage before, they are rap groups.
Exactly. This is a really stupid argument he's presenting.
No one In their right mind thinks mogwai is a jam band.
Posted on 8/1/12 at 5:03 pm to Blue Velvet
So a jam band is one that will "improvise live over various chord patterns and long sets of music that cross genre boundaries" and yet Miles Davis is only jazz?
Clearly you have not listened to very much Miles Davis.
Clearly you have not listened to very much Miles Davis.
Posted on 8/1/12 at 5:04 pm to danman6336
Link me to when Bieber improvised live over various chord patterns and long sets of music and crossed genre boundaries. I'll wait.
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