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re: Singer Frank Ocean comes out of closet.

Posted on 7/5/12 at 11:05 am to
Posted by island
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Posted on 7/5/12 at 11:05 am to
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His album sales just plummeted


You have no idea what you're talking about. His targeted audience doesn't mind his sexual preference. If anything this gets him more publicity.
Posted by Dijkstra
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Posted on 7/5/12 at 12:18 pm to
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Isn't he a part of Odd Future?

Don't they talk about gays etc etc?


They talk about everyone, but Tyler the Creator will openly say that they're all just doing it to get under people's skin, just like their 666, abortion, and rape stuff. When he did it, all of them tweeted messages in support, including Tyler, who people think is the biggest homophobe on Earth even though Syd's been in OF forever. I like Frank Ocean, and I think he's actually pretty talented, which is odd because I think 95% of the genre is shite right now. Not to mention, he's a New Orleans guy and went to ULL for a bit.

As for the whole not understanding him coming out as "brave" thing, I consider him brave for one reason. He's an African-American hip-hop/R&B artist. For someone like Anderson Cooper, it's easy to come out because, let's face it, there are tons of gay TV personalities. For Frank Ocean, that's not the case. Black folk are hugely homophobic, which Twitter is pure evidence of right now, and the hip hop industry is even worse. His career could be ended today, which it won't as long as OF and people like Jay Z and Kanye are around, but to openly come out knowing that everyone in hip hop would most likely judge him negatively is a very brave thing to do. It's like coming out of the closet on a thread in the OT. You're going to get the most ignorant, negative, confrontational pieces of shite coming at you. This is much better than say Chris Brown who was allegedly pounding/getting pounded by dudes and continues to act like some sort of machismo dude.
Posted by Big Chipper
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Posted on 7/5/12 at 12:25 pm to
Who?
Posted by Dijkstra
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Posted on 7/5/12 at 12:43 pm to
He's a rising New Orleans native R&B singer and a part of Odd Future. He's been a ghostwriter for a bunch of huge acts. His first album is about to come out, but his mixtape Nostalgia, ULTRA was pretty good. I say that not being a big fan of rap or R&B, even though I do like OF, Tyler, The Creator mostly. I heard him on Tyler's song "She" and checked it out, and I really enjoyed it. He comes off as a pretty deep, humble guy so until he becomes a egotistical douche like most of the rap community, I'll support him. Nostalgia, ULTRA ( LINK) is free for anyone who wants to check his stuff out.

Here are a few of his songs if you don't care to get the mixtape:

We All Try
Swim Good
There Will Be Tears

I think We All Try has some pretty good stuff, and I enjoy all of them. That said, read the comments of those videos if you question the shite he's taking. It's worse than the normal "dude takes dicks, lol" shite. It's like "He needs to find God because the Devil took his gay arse over!" What the frick?


Posted by D011ahbi11
Member since Jun 2007
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Posted on 7/5/12 at 1:42 pm to
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Most of the people who would buy a Frank Ocean album probably don't care if he is gay or not

Maybe most dont care, but I'll bet he loses a lot of casual fans over it.
This post was edited on 7/5/12 at 1:43 pm
Posted by bobbyray21
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 7/5/12 at 1:55 pm to
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His publicist says he WAS gay, but he's all better now.


lulz.

If you take a dick in your arse, as a man. . .or stick your penis inside a man on purpose. . .

You are always gay.

You can't take that shite back.


Not if he said "no homo" as the dick was being thrust in his arse. If he said "no homo" he's good.
Posted by island
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Posted on 7/5/12 at 2:54 pm to
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but I'll bet he loses a lot of casual fans over it.


How much you wanna bet?
Posted by Wes B
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Posted on 7/5/12 at 2:59 pm to
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This post was edited on 9/10/12 at 12:26 am
Posted by Dijkstra
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Posted on 7/5/12 at 3:08 pm to
I'd say he'd much rather be a queer, successful, and respected by his peers and fans than a soft arse rapper with a lisp.

I'll give you some advice. Your raps are cliché as frick. You get one pattern going forever and just sit on it. I understand that it's easier that way, but good rappers change it up. Also, the hard arse "real white dude" gets you nowhere today.
Posted by D011ahbi11
Member since Jun 2007
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Posted on 7/5/12 at 3:36 pm to
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How much you wanna bet?

I'll put a grand on it.
A quick search on twitter reveals its a fact.

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I can no longer watch Anderson Cooper or listen to Frank Ocean


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Well no longer be listening to Frank Ocean's music. Call me ignorant all you want. If he can be potentially singing about a dude #Nothanks


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I will no longer listen to Frank Ocean's music *folds arms*


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If Frank Ocean is gonna b singing about dudes I can no longer bump his music, no hate just can't relate


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If frank ocean is bisexual, hes a fraud, and im no longer a fan. #SorryNotSorry


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told my dad frank ocean was bi he said " im done with that dude" smh lol


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might be done with Frank Ocean. FFS


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I hope Frank Ocean isn't Bi cuz I wont be able to listen to his music the same no more


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Frank Ocean was bi.... no more respect.


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I was kool wit listenin to frank ocean but i really cant listen to it anymore cuz the songs was meant for a dude smh


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Its gon be hella hard to listen to Frank Ocean now cant even lie

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Is it a big deal that I CANT listen to Frank Ocean now that he came out the closet??? I dont wish him any harm....I just cant listen now.

And that just scratches the surface.
You want to pay up?
This post was edited on 7/5/12 at 3:37 pm
Posted by Dijkstra
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Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 7/5/12 at 4:10 pm to
The ignorance in those messages is ridiculous. If you're not into gay folk, that's fine, but holy shite, if you can't watch a show or enjoy music because someone's gay, you've got some major issues. That's like saying you can't enjoy Elton John or Queen because of the gayness.
Posted by island
Remlap
Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 7/5/12 at 4:17 pm to
Way to ignore the positive messages that easily outweigh the bigots. Most of those welfare recipients won't buy his album anyway.
Posted by Dijkstra
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Posted on 7/5/12 at 4:34 pm to
I agree that they won't, but I was just pointing out how ridiculous of logic it was. They still like Chris Brown, who was allegedly sending texts to a dude saying "You weren't complaining when you were hittin' this!" and talking about liking his D. What the frick?
Posted by D011ahbi11
Member since Jun 2007
13693 posts
Posted on 7/5/12 at 8:00 pm to
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Way to ignore the positive messages that easily outweigh the bigots

I'm not ignoring them, just pointing out that there are a shitload of people who feel this way. You were pretty naive to think he wouldnt lose fans over this.
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Most of those welfare recipients won't buy his album anyway

I agreed that these likely arent people who were going to buy his album, but just casual fans. The welfare comment is pretty fricking stupid though.
Posted by Meursault
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 7/14/12 at 1:23 pm to
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His album sales just plummeted


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