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re: Opinion on TOTO
Posted on 3/14/22 at 9:50 pm to DaleGribble
Posted on 3/14/22 at 9:50 pm to DaleGribble
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Glenn Campbell, Larry Carlton
Also much better guitarist than Buckingham. Buckingham had a style which I like quite a bit, however I don’t believe he possesses the jazz chops or range to perform several different genres of music.
Check and see what the predominant key Fleetwood Mac songs are in.
This post was edited on 3/14/22 at 9:51 pm
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Posted on 3/15/22 at 9:46 am to geauxbrown
quote:I really don't think I have ever agreed with you, on anything really.
Also much better guitarist than Buckingham. Buckingham had a style which I like quite a bit, however I don’t believe he possesses the jazz chops or range to perform several different genres of music.
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Posted on 3/15/22 at 1:34 pm to AlxTgr
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I really don't think I have ever agreed with you, on anything really.
Buckingham was almost completely self-taught with that claw fingerstyle, relying heavily on a Travis fingerpicking style, but with his own stamp on it. Makes his playing very unique. While I think Mark Knopfler is a better guitarist (at least for rock music), they are similar in this respect - a self-taught, fingerstyle virtuoso.
Posted on 3/15/22 at 2:34 pm to Saint Alfonzo
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She was unaware that they were basically Michael Jackson's studio band until Steve talked about writing Human Nature before they played it.
Wasn't Thriller basically a Toto album with Michael Jackson as front man? I think I remember reading that Toto arranged most of the songs on that album
Posted on 3/15/22 at 3:17 pm to AlxTgr
I tend to agree with this. I feel the same way about Mike Campbell from Tom Petty's band also.
Posted on 3/15/22 at 6:44 pm to jchamil
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Wasn't Thriller basically a Toto album with Michael Jackson as front man?
Not exactly, but Luke, Dave, Steve and Jeff played a lot of music on there.
Quincy Jones produced all the tracks and Michael co-produced some of them with him. Steve Porcaro and John Bettis (the other guy from Spectrum) wrote Human Nature. There were a couple of Temperton-penned tracks on there and PYT, which was James Ingram and Quincy Jones.
But, the big hits were written by MJ, except Temperton's title track.
Posted on 3/15/22 at 9:31 pm to Gnash
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original singer David Kimball
Bobby Kimball
Posted on 3/15/22 at 9:33 pm to MoonRiver
quote:would you be my huckleberry efriend?
MoonRiver
Posted on 3/15/22 at 11:00 pm to Kafka
Bobby Kimball sang in Louisiana Leroux
Posted on 3/15/22 at 11:02 pm to moock blackjack
Saw Toto 5 years ago at the HOB
Incredible show
Incredible show
Posted on 3/24/22 at 8:44 am to Ace Midnight
Another (essentially) forgotten project involving members of Toto is the i-Ten record (Taking a Cold Look). This was the "band" fronted by Hall of Fame songwriting team Tom Kelly and Billy Steinberg and is most remembered for the track Alone, later to be covered as a monster hit by Heart on their Bad Animals album. Although the drums were by Mike Baird, Luke, Paich and Steve Porcaro contributed heavily to the instrumentation of that album (ETA: And Lenny Castro played on one track). Keith Olsen and Luke produced the record as well.
Other hits (for other folks at least) written by Kelly and Steinberg include - True Colors (Lauper), Eternal Flame (Bangles), I Touch Myself (Divinyls), Like a Virgin (Madonna), and So Emotional (Whitney Houston).
(Side note - I saw Heart in the PMAC in October(?) 1987 for their Bad Animals tour. Not only was it a great show, during the warmup they played an album, in its entirety. That album was Def Leppard's Hysteria. I only knew the name of the album and didn't figure it out until the title track played near the end.)
Other hits (for other folks at least) written by Kelly and Steinberg include - True Colors (Lauper), Eternal Flame (Bangles), I Touch Myself (Divinyls), Like a Virgin (Madonna), and So Emotional (Whitney Houston).
(Side note - I saw Heart in the PMAC in October(?) 1987 for their Bad Animals tour. Not only was it a great show, during the warmup they played an album, in its entirety. That album was Def Leppard's Hysteria. I only knew the name of the album and didn't figure it out until the title track played near the end.)
This post was edited on 3/24/22 at 8:48 am
Posted on 3/24/22 at 2:02 pm to metallica81788
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Love the guitar solo on Hold the Line.
That's the one song that really drew me in for Toto when I was young.
Really nice live version of it here: LINK
Posted on 3/24/22 at 8:51 pm to Palomitz
I'll Be Over You(1986) is my favorite. Michael McDonald sang backup.
Posted on 3/25/22 at 10:34 am to msudawg1200
They rival The Doors in their ability to write one song that is a ten and follow it up with another song that is a one. Really great musicians who would sometimes knock one out of the park and other times hit a slow roller that goes foul before it gets halfway to third base.
There is the old cliche of the whole being greater than the sum of its parts. A lot of times with Toto the sum of the parts was greater than the whole.
I could dig playing their music if I'm drifting around a lake in a boat on a summer Sunday afternoon. They wouldn't make my play list if I was lifting weights in a gym though.
There is the old cliche of the whole being greater than the sum of its parts. A lot of times with Toto the sum of the parts was greater than the whole.
I could dig playing their music if I'm drifting around a lake in a boat on a summer Sunday afternoon. They wouldn't make my play list if I was lifting weights in a gym though.
Posted on 3/26/22 at 7:32 pm to 88Wildcat
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They rival The Doors in their ability to write one song that is a ten and follow it up with another song that is a one. Really great musicians who would sometimes knock one out of the park and other times hit a slow roller that goes foul before it gets halfway to third base. There is the old cliche of the whole being greater than the sum of its parts. A lot of times with Toto the sum of the parts was greater than the whole. I could dig playing their music if I'm drifting around a lake in a boat on a summer Sunday afternoon. They wouldn't make my play list if I was lifting weights in a gym though
Good analysis
Posted on 3/29/22 at 5:33 am to Ace Midnight
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It was pretty safe, homogenized soft/mainstream rock in the same tradition as Fleetwood Mac.
Damning with faint praise, no?
FM put together as great of two back-to-back as has ever been released. (Yeah -- There is a time, mood and place for "edgy", out-of-mainstream stuff -- it doesn't work great at gatherings, and it's an acquired taste.)
Striking that kind of brilliant balance of a Toto, FM, or "Mainstream Rock" was an art onto itself -- composed & performed by the era's master craftsmen (which is why the Classic Rock is what it is -- and the era didn't and couldn't last longer than it did.)
Posted on 3/29/22 at 5:34 am to 88Wildcat
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There is the old cliche of the whole being greater than the sum of its parts. A lot of times with Toto the sum of the parts was greater than the whole.
+1
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