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My revised guitar thread. TLDR but multiple questions.
Posted on 11/23/16 at 11:45 am
Posted on 11/23/16 at 11:45 am
I've had two threads. I have more questions. So I just want to lump them all into one thread. I appreciate everyone's input so far. 
Situation.... 6 year old had a melt down that he wanted an electric guitar. I have two acoustics and he has two crappy ones. Neighbor kid has a cheapo 50 dollar guitar and amp. He wants more. I want more. He "needs" it to be #1 GOLD!!! or #2 Red. Gold is problematic. Most are pricey or heavy (Les Paul Epis or other copies).
Shopping for him has now given me the itch. I sat the other day and had a FU---NG blast dicking around with a Jackson 3/4 Minion through a Fender Mustang 3. 100 settings I could sound like Johnny Marr to Dimebag to Eric Clapton with turn of a dial... Minus skill or talent.
1. 3/4 or full size. Justin guitar says just go full size. Any youtube video of a prodigy has 6 year old wailing on standard size. Full size gives me something we can both play. And if he sticks with it he can only get better as his hands grow. But if a full size frustrates him to the point of quitting early? What was the point?
2. I can handle tuning and string changes on my acoustic. Even probably some BASIC repair with youtube. But electric? I am lost. What is the best bridge system for ease or changing string and intonation? the cheapo we borrowed from the neighbor looked like your standard Strat bridge (CHEAP) but was a nightmare to jack with. I know a tremolo bar and a 6 year old is a bad combo. What is the easiest bridge to restring and "setup" and intonate? My assumption is the LP style where you dial the bridge height?
3. Jackson guitar was suggested by a dude at GC and by a guy who my wife graduated with. He looks the part. Dude IS an actual musician. Jackson was suggested over the Squier MINI. Having held both I agree. And the JAckson has a red model. If I ended up going gold it would have to be a standard sized guitar. A Fender MIM or Squier or an Agile LP style. Any other brands I can consider?
4. I quickly understood what the amp means. Bad amp will make a $6000 Les Paul sound like dogshit. Good amp made a $59 used Ibanez Strat copy sound as good anything I can ever imagine myself sounding? I was plugged into a used Mustang 3 that was $200? It is a digital modeling amp. New it is over my budget, but what other models are there that can do what it does? Fender, Orange, Blackstar, Marshall, others? I want to avoid all the extra gear and pedals?
Budget for each is $200. give or take a few bucks.Amp $200 and Guitar $200.
thanks again for reading. Sorry so long winded.
Admins please whack my other threads and not this one as I know I am getting repetitive. If I need to edit something please let me know.
Happy Thanksgiving.
Situation.... 6 year old had a melt down that he wanted an electric guitar. I have two acoustics and he has two crappy ones. Neighbor kid has a cheapo 50 dollar guitar and amp. He wants more. I want more. He "needs" it to be #1 GOLD!!! or #2 Red. Gold is problematic. Most are pricey or heavy (Les Paul Epis or other copies).
Shopping for him has now given me the itch. I sat the other day and had a FU---NG blast dicking around with a Jackson 3/4 Minion through a Fender Mustang 3. 100 settings I could sound like Johnny Marr to Dimebag to Eric Clapton with turn of a dial... Minus skill or talent.
1. 3/4 or full size. Justin guitar says just go full size. Any youtube video of a prodigy has 6 year old wailing on standard size. Full size gives me something we can both play. And if he sticks with it he can only get better as his hands grow. But if a full size frustrates him to the point of quitting early? What was the point?
2. I can handle tuning and string changes on my acoustic. Even probably some BASIC repair with youtube. But electric? I am lost. What is the best bridge system for ease or changing string and intonation? the cheapo we borrowed from the neighbor looked like your standard Strat bridge (CHEAP) but was a nightmare to jack with. I know a tremolo bar and a 6 year old is a bad combo. What is the easiest bridge to restring and "setup" and intonate? My assumption is the LP style where you dial the bridge height?
3. Jackson guitar was suggested by a dude at GC and by a guy who my wife graduated with. He looks the part. Dude IS an actual musician. Jackson was suggested over the Squier MINI. Having held both I agree. And the JAckson has a red model. If I ended up going gold it would have to be a standard sized guitar. A Fender MIM or Squier or an Agile LP style. Any other brands I can consider?
4. I quickly understood what the amp means. Bad amp will make a $6000 Les Paul sound like dogshit. Good amp made a $59 used Ibanez Strat copy sound as good anything I can ever imagine myself sounding? I was plugged into a used Mustang 3 that was $200? It is a digital modeling amp. New it is over my budget, but what other models are there that can do what it does? Fender, Orange, Blackstar, Marshall, others? I want to avoid all the extra gear and pedals?
Budget for each is $200. give or take a few bucks.Amp $200 and Guitar $200.
thanks again for reading. Sorry so long winded.
Admins please whack my other threads and not this one as I know I am getting repetitive. If I need to edit something please let me know.
Happy Thanksgiving.
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Posted on 11/24/16 at 1:40 am to LSU alum wannabe
Here is my advice after,going through this with my daughter: Get the Mustang amp,Squier Telly,have a set-up done on the guitar.The squier tellys aren't bad,and their weaknesses can be improved for a few bucks. I have a Squier Thinline Telly,that I play more than my real strats and tellys.
Keep it tuned for him,if he starts learning,get him better stuff. Don't fall into the trap,that the right guitar will get him interested,until he is at least learning some stuff.
Take the time to hit some pawn shops too. Find the one locally that deals in the most music stuff,and be a regular there.Spend a little money sometimes on strings and stuff,and you will start getting offered deals on the bigger stuff.
Keep it tuned for him,if he starts learning,get him better stuff. Don't fall into the trap,that the right guitar will get him interested,until he is at least learning some stuff.
Take the time to hit some pawn shops too. Find the one locally that deals in the most music stuff,and be a regular there.Spend a little money sometimes on strings and stuff,and you will start getting offered deals on the bigger stuff.
This post was edited on 11/24/16 at 9:57 am
Posted on 11/24/16 at 6:52 am to LSU alum wannabe
Glad to see you're still "amped" about playing your guitar.
I've only owned 1 Electric,and that was 15 years ago when I started my journey,but tuning it was easy.
Used the same Electronic Tuner that I use today on my acoustic.
Happy Thanksgiving.
I've only owned 1 Electric,and that was 15 years ago when I started my journey,but tuning it was easy.
Used the same Electronic Tuner that I use today on my acoustic.
Happy Thanksgiving.
Posted on 11/24/16 at 8:29 am to LSU alum wannabe
You can always block off the trem. I have one blocked of with some wooden toy blocks.
I just got a Minion and after some minor work, I love it.
I just got a Minion and after some minor work, I love it.
Posted on 11/24/16 at 8:55 pm to LSU alum wannabe
Just get a little starter kit like Squier strat/tele, Ibanez (which I think others suggested). Make sure he's interested long term then escalate the quality.
That's what my dad did for me at 13 and it stuck. Then I saved up for a few years and ended up with a $2000 guitar. It's great that y'all share the passion but kids that age can get burnt out on hobbies eventually.
That's what my dad did for me at 13 and it stuck. Then I saved up for a few years and ended up with a $2000 guitar. It's great that y'all share the passion but kids that age can get burnt out on hobbies eventually.
Posted on 11/24/16 at 9:50 pm to metallica81788
Teles are preferable in neck shape for small hands. But he thinks they're "boring" looking.
He's 6. So "boring" is about all the elaboration I can get.
His favorite so far is out of reach (thank god). A MIM Stratocaster in Vegas Gold.
It is hideous.
He's 6. So "boring" is about all the elaboration I can get.
His favorite so far is out of reach (thank god). A MIM Stratocaster in Vegas Gold.
It is hideous.
Posted on 11/25/16 at 9:14 am to Orphan
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just got a Minion and after some minor work, I love it.
Define "minor work" from a cost standpoint.
ETA I also picked up a Schecter. I know these are more Metal guitars, but my thinking is that the jumbo frets will make fretting more easy for his hands? Am I talking out of my arse on this? I can get the amp to sound like anything.
This post was edited on 11/25/16 at 9:17 am
Posted on 11/25/16 at 2:07 pm to LSU alum wannabe
I think a very thin neck,regular frets,with very close action will work best for him at first.
I haven't picked one up in years,but Peavey used to have some very thin necks.I had an old T-15 once,that I actually loved. That was 35 years ago though,and we have both moved on.
I haven't picked one up in years,but Peavey used to have some very thin necks.I had an old T-15 once,that I actually loved. That was 35 years ago though,and we have both moved on.
Posted on 11/25/16 at 2:18 pm to auggie
Posted on 11/25/16 at 3:03 pm to TigerRanter
I can't imagine giving a kid anything with a whammy bar.They would probably wear that out in no time,without focusing on actually playing.It's probably just as good electronically as the regular squier tellies though,and easy to improve for 50 bucks.
Somebody suggested blocking the Tremolo,but the kid is gonna unblock it for sure.
Somebody suggested blocking the Tremolo,but the kid is gonna unblock it for sure.
Posted on 11/25/16 at 3:37 pm to auggie
Just take the bar off. I don't have the whammy bar on any of my strats.
Posted on 11/25/16 at 6:13 pm to TigerRanter
Yep.
Thanks.
Think I am done over thinking it GC has one for $129 and it is gold. All my boy cares about is gold. Red will be passable but gold and I will be the hero.
Thanks.
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Squier Bullet
Think I am done over thinking it GC has one for $129 and it is gold. All my boy cares about is gold. Red will be passable but gold and I will be the hero.
Posted on 11/25/16 at 9:13 pm to LSU alum wannabe
Long story short....It had a buzz on the low E string when fretted, the nut was kind of jacked up, talk to a few repair guys, I took fine grit sand paper wrapped around the guitar string, past it back and forth a few times, no buzzing.......
Posted on 11/26/16 at 8:22 am to TigerRanter
It aint just the bar or handle.I think a solid bridge is better,and bend the guitar.
Posted on 11/26/16 at 9:37 am to auggie
If it's blocked off, it'll be fine.
Posted on 11/26/16 at 12:52 pm to TigerRanter
The deal is done Squier Bullet in Aztec gold and a used Fender Mustang III.
All for 3 bills.
The amp was a catch and release for somebody. I couldn't see anything wrong with it?
All for 3 bills.
The amp was a catch and release for somebody. I couldn't see anything wrong with it?
Posted on 11/26/16 at 2:36 pm to LSU alum wannabe
I think you overpaid for a 6 year-old, but you got him some quality gear. If he does well with it and sticks with it, you can get him a nicer guitar when he starts high school and a decent tube amp when he graduates. Plus, as long as he sticks with it, you'll have plenty of easy Christmas and birthday gifts you can get him in the future. If by next Christmas, he's still rocking out and showing good progress, get him an empty pedal-board and each Christmas, you can get him a new pedal or a new toy like recording interfaces and what not. That way, by the time he graduates high school, he has really great gear that you didn't have to shell out for all at once.
Congrats on winning dad of the year
Congrats on winning dad of the year
This post was edited on 11/26/16 at 3:20 pm
Posted on 11/26/16 at 6:20 pm to kingbob
quote:
think you overpaid for a 6 year-old, but you got him some quality gear. If he does well with it and sticks with it, yo
I know I did.
It's win win. He gets his guitar and we both get an amp.
I'll buy my guitar later. I'm a very patient shopper and accumulate of gift cards. I will have days of research and shopping done by the time I buy mine. And if he loses interest, I'll be researching how to improve pickups and other electronics.
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