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MB Drummers; Paiste or Ziljian?

Posted on 3/9/13 at 5:15 pm
Posted by BestBanker
Member since Nov 2011
19728 posts
Posted on 3/9/13 at 5:15 pm
Cymbal purchase is in my future. Obviously there are many choices. So a simple question: Paiste Giant Beats or Ziljian A or Custom A?
Which sounds best to your ears and do you own them? What do you play if none of these? Thanks.
Posted by Srbtiger06
Member since Apr 2006
29424 posts
Posted on 3/9/13 at 5:53 pm to
I have a Sweet Ride, 20" A Custom Crash, and a 16" A Fast Splash. I've played around with a few others and they're good but my personal faves are the K Customs. My current set is 15" K Light hats, K Custom hybrid crash, and a K Light 18" crash.

I like the giant beats but I just can't pull myself away from the K Lights...or new beats.
Posted by Dandy Lion
Member since Feb 2010
51416 posts
Posted on 3/9/13 at 5:54 pm to
Zildjian.
Posted by Breesus
Unplug
Member since Jan 2010
69549 posts
Posted on 3/9/13 at 6:12 pm to
quote:

Ziljian
Posted by Srbtiger06
Member since Apr 2006
29424 posts
Posted on 3/9/13 at 6:15 pm to
Buy used if you can. I have a couple used cymbals...you can get great deals. If you go Zildjian, they have some "3-Pack Hi Hats" that are nice. I have a K Light top & bottom and a New Beat top, I saved a TON.
Posted by The Dudes Rug
Member since Nov 2004
14069 posts
Posted on 3/9/13 at 6:21 pm to
You can't go wrong with either one. Zildjian A and A customs will have a brighter tone, while K and K customs will have a darker tone. Paiste Giant Beats are slightly more dark that the 2002 line, but are still great for loud playing situations like the 2002s.

I use mainly Paistes, 14" Signature Dark Crisp Hats, 20" Signature Full Ride, 18" Sabian HHX thin crash, and a 24" Paiste 2002 Ride.
Posted by Dandy Lion
Member since Feb 2010
51416 posts
Posted on 3/9/13 at 6:25 pm to
Yeah, I forgot. Paiste high hats (for me, anyway). Like the 'thicker' sound.
Posted by Srbtiger06
Member since Apr 2006
29424 posts
Posted on 3/9/13 at 6:27 pm to
quote:

You can't go wrong with either one.


This. Both are quality brands. Really depends on what sound you want.
Posted by The Dudes Rug
Member since Nov 2004
14069 posts
Posted on 3/9/13 at 6:32 pm to
What type of music do you play?
Posted by BestBanker
Member since Nov 2011
19728 posts
Posted on 3/9/13 at 7:47 pm to
Thanks guys! I appreciate your input. I'm not playing music just yet., but mess around with Zeppelin and some jazzier rock when practicing. At the ripe age of 47, I have aquired my first drum set and am still rudimentary. The Gretsch kit came with entry Sabians and I'm itching to get the snare and cymbals proper. My instructor has some A Customs on his practice setup and they sound great, but wanting to get the cymbals I like has led me to these options so far.
Posted by The Dudes Rug
Member since Nov 2004
14069 posts
Posted on 3/9/13 at 7:56 pm to
A Customs do sound awesome, they are the ideal cymbals for nearly any kind of rock. One thing that may help you decide is go to YouTube and type in any cymbal you are looking for, there will be a video(usually multiple) from Mycymbal.com showcasing the cymbal.

For example, here is a demo of my hats from their site.

I've used this a lot when contemplating on which cymbal to get.

Also, eBay and Craigslist are your friends. If you have the money to spend, by all means, but them new. But I have bought all of my cymbals used at a fraction of the cost.
Posted by BestBanker
Member since Nov 2011
19728 posts
Posted on 3/9/13 at 9:11 pm to
Thanks again! I watched quite a few youtube videos yesterday and they do help a lot.
I just watched your link and scrolled down a few to watch the Zildian 14s and both sound great. I can tell the difference in tones and that just adds to my confusion. Your high hats sound great!
Posted by Big Chipper
Charlotte, NC
Member since Sep 2008
2990 posts
Posted on 3/10/13 at 9:42 am to
In my opinion, you should try to find some real turkish cymbals instead of the machine made Zildjian, Paiste, Sabian stuff. Brands like Istanbul and Bosphorus sound much better and are hand crafted.
Posted by Oswald
South of the St. George Buffer Zone
Member since Aug 2011
4529 posts
Posted on 3/10/13 at 12:31 pm to
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Srbtiger06 - You can't go wrong with either one.


This. I'm a Paiste guy, personally, but, I've sat in on a few kits outfitted with various Zildjian models (A Custom, Z Custom and various K models) which I enjoyed.

I've always looked for that perfect mixture of dark smokiness with a nice, subtle shimmer and, to my ears, the Paiste Signature Series and Paiste Dark Energy Series have always pleased me the most, with the Zildjian K series and the old Constantinople series coming in a close second.

The most important factor is the kind of music you play...
Posted by Oswald
South of the St. George Buffer Zone
Member since Aug 2011
4529 posts
Posted on 3/10/13 at 12:36 pm to
quote:

Big Chipper - Brands like Istanbul


Great brand. I've got a 20" Mehmet ride and I definitely prefer its bell over the bell of my Paiste 602.
Posted by The Dudes Rug
Member since Nov 2004
14069 posts
Posted on 3/10/13 at 8:22 pm to
quote:

In my opinion, you should try to find some real turkish cymbals instead of the machine made Zildjian, Paiste, Sabian stuff. Brands like Istanbul and Bosphorus sound much better and are hand crafted.

Zildjian K, Paiste Signatures/Masters/Dark Energy, and Sabian HH are all hand hammered.

The choice to get hand hammered cymbals is up to the buyer as well. Machine lathed cymbals, Zildjian A, Paiste 2002/Giant Beat/RUDE, Sabian AA/AAX have a brighter tone, which is better suited for rock music or for playing loud.
This post was edited on 3/10/13 at 8:28 pm
Posted by BestBanker
Member since Nov 2011
19728 posts
Posted on 3/11/13 at 7:51 am to
Thanks guys for taking some time to educate me! I am very appreciative. I am learning everytime you guys put something new here!
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