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Lynyrd Skynyrd's Ronnie Van Zant: 'Daddy, I'll never be 30 years old.' He died at 29.
Posted on 6/3/20 at 10:41 am
Posted on 6/3/20 at 10:41 am
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Southern rock band Lynyrd Skynyrd was formed in Jacksonville, Florida in 1964.
On October 20, 1977, a plane carrying the band between shows from Greenville, South Carolina, to Baton Rouge, Louisiana ran out of fuel outside Gillsburg, Mississippi. The passengers had been informed about potential problems with the Convair CV-240 and were told to brace for a crash.
Lead vocalist Ronnie Van Zant died on impact from head injuries suffered after the aircraft struck a tree. Bandmates Steve Gaines and Cassie Gaines, along with assistant road manager Dean Kilpatrick, pilot Walter McCreary, and co-pilot William Gray, were also killed. The rest of the band was seriously injured.
Van Zant was 29 years old.
According to former bandmate Artimus Pyle and family members, Van Zant frequently discussed his mortality. Pyle recalls a moment when Lynyrd Skynyrd was in Japan: "Ronnie and I were in Tokyo, Japan, and Ronnie told me that he would never live to see 30 and that he would go out with his boots on, in other words, on the road. I said, 'Ronnie, don't talk like that,' but the man knew his destiny."
Van Zant's father noted, "He said to me many times, 'Daddy, I'll never be 30 years old.' I said, 'Why are you talking this junk? You will never be 30 years old?’ and he said, 'Daddy, that's my limit.'"
Ex-bandmate Ed King also reported that Van Zant had said it so often that he "had gotten sick of hearing it."
Backup singer JoJo Billingsley recalled that Van Zant had begun referring to himself as "The Mississippi Kid" in the months before his death, despite being born and raised in Florida. She noted that, eerily, Van Zant's only connection to Mississippi was the fact that he would ultimately die there.
Tuesday's Gone (1976)
Posted on 6/3/20 at 9:59 pm to paperwasp
A frick ton of musical talent and spirit was cast to the wind the day that plane went down.
Posted on 6/5/20 at 8:16 am to Honest Tune
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A frick ton of musical talent and spirit was cast to the wind the day that plane went down.
Yep....
It was always kind of hip to look down on them, but the fact is they were one of the most musically talented, dynamic bands in History.
If Bob Dylan had written "Curtis Loew", it would be top 5 on every music critics list of greatest songs ever written.
Posted on 6/5/20 at 8:04 pm to paperwasp
Interesting stuff. Johnny Horton was said to be terrified of dying in a car accident; died in a crash by a dump truck; driver was drunk. Only 35
Posted on 6/6/20 at 10:28 am to oogabooga68
In those times you didn't have the names for different genres like you do now. They saw themselves as rock musicians but the music they put out didn't sound like rock music, it did have somewhat of a country sound to it. I think the band was walking between rock and country music, they had a sound that no one ever heard of before.
A lot of people couldn't figure them out and I don't think they were fully accepted by the rock community because they may have sounded too country. They weren't accepted by Nashville either because the music wasn't country and the band's appearance had a counter culture look such as the long hair for example. So the band were outlaws and had to do things without being embraced or supported. The Confederate flag during concerts didn't help either.
They remind me of Alabama had the crash not happened and went the country route instead. Both bands started in the sixties. Alabama wasn't accepted in Nashville during the 70s because they had long hair and didn't like the music. But in the early 80s they exploded and Nashville finally got around to supporting them.
That is how I believe Lynyrd Skynyrd would end up had the crash didn't happen, they would have dominated country music in 80s just like Alabama did. Also members from Alabama said that Skynyrd was one of their biggest influences.
A lot of people couldn't figure them out and I don't think they were fully accepted by the rock community because they may have sounded too country. They weren't accepted by Nashville either because the music wasn't country and the band's appearance had a counter culture look such as the long hair for example. So the band were outlaws and had to do things without being embraced or supported. The Confederate flag during concerts didn't help either.
They remind me of Alabama had the crash not happened and went the country route instead. Both bands started in the sixties. Alabama wasn't accepted in Nashville during the 70s because they had long hair and didn't like the music. But in the early 80s they exploded and Nashville finally got around to supporting them.
That is how I believe Lynyrd Skynyrd would end up had the crash didn't happen, they would have dominated country music in 80s just like Alabama did. Also members from Alabama said that Skynyrd was one of their biggest influences.
This post was edited on 6/6/20 at 12:43 pm
Posted on 6/7/20 at 12:23 pm to paperwasp
That’s some deep shite........ I remember reading in the paper about what happened the day after the crash... I was a jr. in HS and loved the music they had put out.... I’ll never forget in late 1982 that my best friend growing up came to visit me from Florida. (We both grew up on Michigan and was in Louisiana at that point). Had not seen him for 5 years. We went and shot pool and drank. But I had a cassette of LS in the car and when we got back home we just started cranking all those songs just jamming.... it was a great time . My dashboard was never the same after that.
Posted on 6/8/20 at 7:52 am to Honest Tune
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musical talent
Skynyrd was definitely loaded with it - even the early versions of the band showed flashes, but the "plane crash" lineup with Gaines and Powell being the final pieces they needed, that's 3 guitarists and a piano player who could have played for almost anybody.
For cats who a few years before didn't understand you were supposed to have the drums and bass play together, they crafted some top tier songs and, essentially, gave folks a real reason to name the genre (with all due respect to the ABB).
Posted on 6/8/20 at 7:57 am to paperwasp
There was a photo of Roberto Clemente taken in 1972 where it was a color photo but Clemente was black and white.
Posted on 6/9/20 at 9:56 pm to dchog
Ronnie said repeatedly towards near the end he wanted to do more country and that supposedly he and Merle Haggard(one of his music idols) were talking about a duet. Ah man had we had the fortune to hear that! I think he would have fit right in perfect with Waylon, Willie and the outlaw group.
Posted on 6/10/20 at 6:46 am to Bushwackers
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Ronnie said repeatedly towards near the end he wanted to do more country
I never heard that but it doesn't surprise me. I know he was a big Merle fan bc of his dad.
Posted on 6/12/20 at 2:14 pm to paperwasp
My dad's told me about this a bunch of times. He graduated high school a few months before and had tickets to see them for the first time in Baton Rouge. I'm not sure, but I think he might still have the tickets today.
Posted on 6/12/20 at 10:13 pm to Bushwackers
They would be a perfect fit for outlaw country. I can see them collaborating with Alabama, Waylon, Cash, Willie, Kris Kristofferson, Hank Jr. Dwight Yoakam, Haggard, George Jones and even David Allan Coe.
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