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re: Joe Bonamassa: So It's Like That

Posted on 4/29/15 at 2:09 pm to
Posted by dnm3305
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 4/29/15 at 2:09 pm to
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What's fun about noodling scales over and over?


That's how you interpret it. Bonamassa is walking up and down some scales but doesnt just play them for the sake of playing them as you suggest. He plays more aggressive then nearly anyone, save maybe Kenny Wayne Shepherd, and still has explosive bends and heavy vibrato all over one of his solo's.

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You can literally almost sing this entire lead, even from the opening intro. Jack White is incapable of playing anything close to this because he simply does not possess the technical skill and dedication to the craft that Bonamassa shows in this song. Go to 3:10 and watch how emotional that lead is and tell me that he's noodling. This is a perfect example of how Bonamassa is a master of using speed and precise notes and licks to jump from one phrase to another. This is displayed perfectly from the 3:44 to 3:51. Precise emotional bends followed by a speedy walk down into the next bending and phrasing part. It is all by design. It's very similar to something Gary Moore did in "Still Got the Blues" or Gilmour did in "Comfortably Numb", only Gilmour didnt include the precise speed notes when walking down on his pentatonic notes.
Posted by Sid in Lakeshore
Member since Oct 2008
41956 posts
Posted on 4/29/15 at 2:10 pm to
As much heart as I've ever seen him play with.

Thrill is gone.

Very good rendition

ETA: Except maybe here.
This post was edited on 4/29/15 at 2:26 pm
Posted by CocoLoco
Member since Jan 2012
29108 posts
Posted on 4/29/15 at 2:39 pm to
So Bonamassas solos are better than what Gilmour did in Comfortably Numb just because it's more difficult?

And I pointed out that White isn't as skilled; but he has Bonamassa beat in originality by miles. He's more interesting and distinctive.
Posted by Sid in Lakeshore
Member since Oct 2008
41956 posts
Posted on 4/29/15 at 2:46 pm to
Coco,

I see where you are coming from. Check out the links in my post. He plays with much more feeling in a small venue (as most would).

I like his solos, but a lot of his music does not "grab me".
Posted by L.A.
The Mojave Desert
Member since Aug 2003
67007 posts
Posted on 4/29/15 at 3:03 pm to
This is still my favorite version of this song

Joe Bonamass and Eric Clapton: Further On Up the Road
Posted by dnm3305
Member since Feb 2009
16413 posts
Posted on 4/29/15 at 3:04 pm to
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So Bonamassas solos are better than what Gilmour did in Comfortably Numb just because it's more difficult?


Or course not, and I didnt say that. I was just saying they were similar.

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but he has Bonamassa beat in originality by miles


That's not always a good thing.

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He's more interesting and distinctive

I think Bonamassa may be the most distinctive player to come along in a LONG time. You immediately know it's him playing on a Les Paul when you hear the first lick. For comparison, Slash plays nothing but Les Pauls through Marshall amps and has a hybrid blues/classical fusion just like Bonamassa, yet you can tell them apart instantly.
Posted by monsterballads
Gulf of America
Member since Jun 2013
31547 posts
Posted on 4/29/15 at 4:08 pm to
White guy blues players are pretty boring. I'll never understand it.
Posted by L.A.
The Mojave Desert
Member since Aug 2003
67007 posts
Posted on 4/29/15 at 4:10 pm to
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White guy blues players are pretty boring. I'll never understand it.
Geez, racist much?
Posted by Tigerwaffe
Orlando
Member since Sep 2007
4975 posts
Posted on 4/29/15 at 6:24 pm to
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it's hard to explain

It sounds too clean for the blues.
quote:

I know that sounds ridiculous.

Not really.

And I'm not here to slag Bonamassas. He's a phenomenal player. It just sometimes, the best blues sounds like a hangover, a sketchy recollection of what you did last night and no idea where your car keys are.
Posted by L.A.
The Mojave Desert
Member since Aug 2003
67007 posts
Posted on 4/29/15 at 6:36 pm to
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It sounds too clean for the blues.
I don't think of Bonamassa as primarily as blues player.

But to the other poster, if you can play the blues you can play the blues. Color's got nothing to do with it. And while it's true that most of the great bluesmen have been black, SRV, Johnny Winter, Eric Clapton, Ry Cooder, and Gary Moore all come to mind as great white blues players.
Posted by Tigerwaffe
Orlando
Member since Sep 2007
4975 posts
Posted on 4/29/15 at 6:45 pm to
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great white blues players

Duke Robillard, Ronnie Earl.
Posted by BigOrangeBri
Nashville- 4th & 19
Member since Jul 2012
12858 posts
Posted on 4/29/15 at 7:27 pm to
Desdemona- Trucks and Haynes

Some of the best guitar porn ever made.

The fun starts at the 3:30 mark. The notes Trucks hits at the 5:12 mark give me chills every time.
Posted by Tigerwaffe
Orlando
Member since Sep 2007
4975 posts
Posted on 4/29/15 at 8:00 pm to
The point some of us are trying to make is that the best blues doesn't sound like a well-oiled precision machine .. but like a king hell hangover.
Posted by BigOrangeBri
Nashville- 4th & 19
Member since Jul 2012
12858 posts
Posted on 4/29/15 at 8:24 pm to
Oh, I agree. But I'm not trying to be a part of the argument. Just wanted to bring one of my personal favorites to the board.
Posted by rbWarEagle
Member since Nov 2009
49999 posts
Posted on 4/29/15 at 10:52 pm to
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The fun starts at the 3:30 mark. The notes Trucks hits at the 5:12 mark give me chills every time.



This literally brings tears to my eyes
Posted by dnm3305
Member since Feb 2009
16413 posts
Posted on 4/30/15 at 7:25 am to
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And I'm not here to slag Bonamassas. He's a phenomenal player. It just sometimes, the best blues sounds like a hangover, a sketchy recollection of what you did last night and no idea where your car keys are.


Yea, sometimes. But all the time, it's about emotion. That's why SRV is the greatest. His "The Sky is Crying" is and always will be the greatest. No one can match the intensity and emotion and elevate with technical skill like SRV could, not even Gary Moore or Bonamassa.
Posted by monsterballads
Gulf of America
Member since Jun 2013
31547 posts
Posted on 4/30/15 at 11:17 am to
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White guy blues players are pretty boring. I'll never understand it.

Geez, racist much?


White guy's playing the blues just doesn't interest me. Just really boring.
Posted by dnm3305
Member since Feb 2009
16413 posts
Posted on 4/30/15 at 12:05 pm to
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White guy's playing the blues just doesn't interest me. Just really boring.


And BB King's "The Thrill Is Gone" is something that a novice player that has been playing less than 1 year could knock out the park, so I guess we're just on opposite ends of the spectrum. The black guys may have been the pioneers, but the white guys took it to the next level.

SRV
KWS
Gary Moore
Bonamassa
Johnny Winter
Warren Haynes
Jonny Lang
Rory Gallagher
Derek Trucks
Duane Allman
Eric Clapton
Peter Green
Robin Trower


are a better than any black players you can come up with. That includes Albert, BB, Freddie, Wolf, Waters, Johnson, Guy, Collins, Sumlin, Cray, etc.

It's really not even close. The white guys are just vastly superior players. Now, can we please move on past the racial thing?
Posted by BigOrangeBri
Nashville- 4th & 19
Member since Jul 2012
12858 posts
Posted on 4/30/15 at 4:00 pm to
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black guys may have been the pioneers, but the white guys took it to the next level.


This
Posted by Marco Esquandolas
Member since Jul 2013
11881 posts
Posted on 4/30/15 at 5:53 pm to
Maybe Strong Safety can chime in here...

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