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re: Is rock dead?

Posted on 8/16/25 at 10:29 am to
Posted by Bayou
Boudin, LA
Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 8/16/25 at 10:29 am to
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metal snd hardcore are bigger and more mainstream now than ever.

Mainstream is a negative not a plus
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
33819 posts
Posted on 8/16/25 at 11:10 am to
Up until the probably 2000s, rock was popular. Teenaged girls even listened to it. Knew the artists. Knew the songs. The bands were known in pop culture.

The bands were popular among “regular” people. Everyone knew who Eddie Van Halen was. Ozzy Osbourne. Eddie Vedder. Flea. Jack White.

People have responded to the OP listing a bunch of niche metal bands that 99.9 percent of the country has never heard of as proof that rock is not dead.

Yes, legacy bands are still touring to a mostly legacy audience of their original fans.

But there are no rock bands that are in the zeitgeist of today.
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
69206 posts
Posted on 8/16/25 at 12:02 pm to
A whole lot of teenage girls listen to metal right now, so much so that the popular bands are nicknamed “Baddiecore” because their fanbase is so heavily young and female.
Posted by St Augustine
The Pauper of the Surf
Member since Mar 2006
70587 posts
Posted on 8/16/25 at 12:18 pm to
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These are 30-50 year old legacy bands


Do 30-50 year old legacy bands not inspire their younger fans to play a guitar?

Oasis, Metallica, Green Day, all the nu metal bands like deftones, papa roach, linkin park are immensely popular amongst kids on tik tok. I thought the oasis show I went to would be all guys my age. It was 50/50 young 20s and 40s/50s and if I had to tilt it either way it would be younger. So that’s 45k younger people showing up per show.

I wouldn’t call them niche at all.

I think it’s more that things are more visible than ever through social media so pop will be even more in your face than ever before.
This post was edited on 8/16/25 at 12:23 pm
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
33819 posts
Posted on 8/16/25 at 1:58 pm to
Good. I hope I’m wrong. But I think your definition of “a whole lot” and mine are quite different.

I’m not arguing that these bands don’t have a following. They do. But they are niche.
Posted by Brosef Stalin
Member since Dec 2011
41514 posts
Posted on 8/16/25 at 2:31 pm to
They are "niche" to old people because MTV is out of the music business and modern rock radio is basically non-existent. You will hear bands like Sleep Token and Bring Me the Horizon all over tik Tok though. Sleep Token headlined Download Festival earlier this summer to around 100,000 fans and have a sold out US arena tour coming up.
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
33819 posts
Posted on 8/16/25 at 2:47 pm to
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Sleep Token


Sounds like a pop band. They don’t even sound rock, much less metal.

quote:


You will hear bands … all over tik Tok



Posted by Brosef Stalin
Member since Dec 2011
41514 posts
Posted on 8/16/25 at 3:07 pm to
Sleep Token, Bad Omens, and Spiritbox all take a lot of influence from pop. That's a big part of the reason they're so popular.
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
33819 posts
Posted on 8/16/25 at 3:15 pm to
So the bands you are trotting out as proof that rock is not dead, are pop pretending to be metal bands?

And they are popular because they make pop music?

Ok bro(sef)


Posted by genuineLSUtiger
Nashville
Member since Sep 2005
76882 posts
Posted on 8/16/25 at 4:13 pm to
You can’t kill rock music. It’s too captivating and powerful for that.
Posted by Brosef Stalin
Member since Dec 2011
41514 posts
Posted on 8/16/25 at 4:14 pm to
I wouldn't compare any of them to Taylor Swift or Sabrina Carpenter, but they're not Slayer either. Spiritbox is fairly heavy but uses some pop melodies and vocals at times. Korn and Limp Bizkit take a lot of influence from rap but no one would call them rap acts.
Posted by genuineLSUtiger
Nashville
Member since Sep 2005
76882 posts
Posted on 8/16/25 at 4:15 pm to
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This board is one of the last places to go to get any idea of modern music.


Good I’m in the right place.
Posted by Macintosh
Leveraging Salaries University
Member since Sep 2011
55433 posts
Posted on 8/16/25 at 4:54 pm to
I think it's starting to make a comeback slowly with younger kids. the dj era is dying out

you still have bands performing like oasis and my chemical romance in front of stadium crowds with young and old fans. old bands are still doing well
This post was edited on 8/16/25 at 4:56 pm
Posted by RocknRollAZ
Arizona
Member since Apr 2025
178 posts
Posted on 8/16/25 at 8:28 pm to
Rock will never die.

Check out https://bandcamp.com/.

There are a lot of new rock / metal bands posting their music daily. I've found some really kickass music there.

This YouTube Channel gives me hope for the future of Rock as well.
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
33819 posts
Posted on 8/16/25 at 8:49 pm to
There are no rock bands founded within the last 25 years among the top 250 most streamed artists on Spotify.

The highest ranked one is Maneskin at No. 256.

Bring Me The Horizon is ranked No. 262, but were founded in 2004.

There are a few in the 300 and 400s, but less than 10 “new” rock/metal bands in the top 600.




Posted by RocknRollAZ
Arizona
Member since Apr 2025
178 posts
Posted on 8/16/25 at 9:10 pm to
None of that means Rock is dead.

Plenty of new Rock bands. Will they be famous? Who knows... But Rock will never die.
Posted by OffTheRails
Member since Apr 2025
65 posts
Posted on 8/16/25 at 10:02 pm to
Rock and Roll Has Died


This is a few years old, but Sina has recently posted covers of Led Zeppelin and 35 minutes from The Who's Tommy. The vocalist on this was Victoria Knight, who fronted her own rock band in Australia; the guitarist Andrei then had a good rock/metal band in Romania and a couple other bands since; the Japanese bassist Juna is known as "The Princess of Funk" but lends herself mostly to jazz.

Edited to add that she has posted a couple original songs that would be considered rock.
This post was edited on 8/16/25 at 10:09 pm
Posted by OffTheRails
Member since Apr 2025
65 posts
Posted on 8/16/25 at 10:07 pm to
I originally intended to reply to your post concerning bandcamp type kid musicians to post this cover of Muse's Hysteria, with 11 year old Ellen ripping through the demanding bass line, and a 9 year old on guitar.
Posted by OffTheRails
Member since Apr 2025
65 posts
Posted on 8/16/25 at 10:25 pm to
I've seen The Warning posted here before, and a somewhat parallel story could be The Sixsters, a girl rock band from Ukraine. When the war came three years ago, original singer Victoria, then 17, took her pet cat and boarded a train from Kyiv to end up in Warsaw, Poland. The other girls revived the band in Germany, and are very capable and original.

Here is the original performance that started them up, and may have contributed to the election of President Zelenskyy, though with lesser quality audio than the version posted on the band's channel. Golosuyu (I'm Voting, or Vote)

Posted by OffTheRails
Member since Apr 2025
65 posts
Posted on 8/16/25 at 10:31 pm to
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The other girls revived the band in Germany, and are very capable and original.

And here is the current iteration of The Sixsters. The band has always been driven by excellent drummer Katya Kuziakova.

Basically reflecting their own lost childhood:



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