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re: is hard rock making a mainstream comeback?

Posted on 6/3/16 at 8:46 am to
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 6/3/16 at 8:46 am to
Instead of promoting music that they think the audience will enjoy, they are instead attempting to condition the audience to enjoy the music they promote.
Posted by auggie
Opelika, Alabama
Member since Aug 2013
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Posted on 6/3/16 at 8:59 am to
That is exactly it. Settle in,and don't touch that dial.
Posted by CBandits82
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Posted on 6/3/16 at 9:11 am to
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Tame Impala is kinda lame in my opinion. I really don't get the appeal. I really believe that Bro Country is simply the natural reaction to a world starved of new rock. The "rock" world keeps pushing techno, indie folk, pop rock bands as their "rising stars" and it's just being rejected by the majority of the country. People are flocking to the one new genre that even sorta makes them feel the way they used to feel, even despite the fact that it is completely artificial and contrived. That's why cover bands are so popular. People are so desperate for a taste of the real thing that they can't help but patronize the only outlets still willing to give them a spoonful. It's like an entire population dying for a taste of some fruit, but because there is no fruit, they resort to drinking orange soda loaded with high-fructos corn syrup because that's the closest thing they can get their hands on.



agree 100%.
Posted by JohnZeroQ
Pelicans of Lafourche
Member since Jan 2012
8536 posts
Posted on 6/3/16 at 9:15 am to
Brosef, I know that you know hard rock never went anywhere.


Radio stations did, which is where averages Joes get their music intake from. MTV does hard rock no favors either unless it is super popular for whatever reason. Which is rare best I can tell.

The thirst for new, hard music for most people comes from their lack of exposure to hard rock because of the above mentioned comments.

If you look hard enough, you can find the music you seek. Some people are content with their audio libraries much in the same way they eat the same restaurants and do the same things every weekend. It is "safe" and familiar so their is content.



I personally do not think hard rock was dead, nor is coming back... it was here all along. Pop culture changed so it was pushed to the side for singers, pop-rock, hip-hop and country. Some of these genres I would argue are used to destroy the minds of men much in the way our society of SJWs, political correctness and the like are... but that is another topic
Posted by Brosef Stalin
Member since Dec 2011
42611 posts
Posted on 6/3/16 at 9:46 am to
As the success of all these new festivals has shown, there are still many rock fans in this country and more importantly they have money to spend. Its just weird that radio stations, magazines, and websites have ignored this market for so long.
Posted by JohnZeroQ
Pelicans of Lafourche
Member since Jan 2012
8536 posts
Posted on 6/3/16 at 10:25 am to
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Its just weird that radio stations, magazines, and websites have ignored this market for so long.


Agreed.I fap every time 106.1FM(NOLA) plays TOOL or something heavier.

Metal fans are very a tight community.
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
71200 posts
Posted on 6/3/16 at 10:40 am to
It's because metal and hard rock are angry, anti-establishment music that doesn't promote rampant consumerism. Look at hip hop. While some of the music may have anti-establishment themes, the vast majority is about dancing, f$&king, and showing off wealth in the forms of expensive alcohol tastes, trendy clothes, and gaudy jewelry. Most pop songs involve the same. Even country music, which was once haralded as "4 chords and the truth" is now nothing but branding about trucks (usually Chevy), jean shorts, and beer.

Metal and hard rock don't exist to sell you anything.
Metal and hard rock aren't about dancing in some club
And they can't be produced with a goddamn casio.

It's all about dealing with complex emotions, conquoring your inner demons, and channeling one's frustrations, fears, sadness, hate, and passion into a creative outlet of love, beauty, and musicianship. The day that metal starts talking about brands of jeans, showing off jewelry, and other stereotypes designed to trick the populist into conforming into set demographics which can be easily marketed to and controlled is the day music has truly died.
Posted by auggie
Opelika, Alabama
Member since Aug 2013
31972 posts
Posted on 6/3/16 at 10:54 am to
Everything that you said is true,make no mistake about it.
As a musician,writer..just keep doing what you do.

Care about your craft.
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
71200 posts
Posted on 6/3/16 at 11:01 am to
Btw, for any BR metal fans out there, Ventruss is back and will be playing the Varsity tomorrow night. Tix are just $10. I'll be there for sure
Posted by lsu2006
BR
Member since Feb 2004
40149 posts
Posted on 6/3/16 at 11:05 am to
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Tame Impala is kinda lame in my opinion.

LOL

Yeah, they're no Bayou Bullets, that's for goddamn sure.
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
71200 posts
Posted on 6/3/16 at 11:10 am to
Hey, different strokes for different folks. I'm not a fan of techno indie pop. Synthesizers, modulators, and dum machines against an anything but driving beat just isn't my style. I know a lot of people like that just like I lot of people like a lot of things which hold no appeal to me like Sting's "I'll be Watching You", Burger King, Nickelback, Hillary Clinton, Duran Duran, the "Twilight" series, and indie songs that go "oo oohoo oohoo o oh" in the chorus.
This post was edited on 6/3/16 at 11:12 am
Posted by Brosef Stalin
Member since Dec 2011
42611 posts
Posted on 6/3/16 at 11:17 am to
The music may not be about consumerism but there is plenty of opportunity for sponsorship and advertising. Monster and Rockstar both sponsor festivals. Scion, a division of Toyota that just shut down, was always a big sponsor of underground music including metal, alt rock, rap, and techno. Adult Swim also does some of that. Plus you have companies like Mountain Dew, Hot Topic, Converse, Levis, video games, headphones, guitar and drum manufactorers thst could all be brought on board.
Posted by lsu2006
BR
Member since Feb 2004
40149 posts
Posted on 6/3/16 at 11:19 am to
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I'm not a fan of techno indie pop

You obviously know nothing of Tame Impala. Remain in your dad rock bubble.
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
71200 posts
Posted on 6/3/16 at 11:51 am to
I've listened to them quite a bit. A lot of friends have tried to turn me on to them, but it just does nothing for me. Overdubbed vocal tracks, disco drum beats, heavy synth constant in every song, super spacy feel, just not my thing. It's a lot of things, but "rock" isn't one of them.
Posted by JohnZeroQ
Pelicans of Lafourche
Member since Jan 2012
8536 posts
Posted on 6/3/16 at 11:57 am to
Im cool with Tame Impala



Kingbob you hit the nail on the head on previous post and most post in general... would like to add one more element to metal...more so than hard rock... and that is the references to the occult. Common theme in many metal bands.


Id say that, ties into the fact that you wont commercialize a ton of music like this obviously.
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
71200 posts
Posted on 6/3/16 at 12:03 pm to
I always felt like the occult stuff was kinda a jab at media folks that tried to paint rock and roll as the devil's music back in the 50's and 60's. Metal just took that attitude and was like "You think we're devils? We'll show you how dark and evil we can be!!!" The occult stuff was never more than a way to piss off the kinds of people who thought that Elvis was going to turn us all into fornicating, porn-addicted, drug-addled, socialist, nihilist, athiest, permanent adolescents, oh wait...






















Jk
This post was edited on 6/3/16 at 12:09 pm
Posted by lsu2006
BR
Member since Feb 2004
40149 posts
Posted on 6/3/16 at 12:43 pm to
"Disco" beat?

Do you know how to do anything besides talk out of your arse?
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
71200 posts
Posted on 6/3/16 at 12:55 pm to
Everything I dislike about today's mainstream "rock" in the first 30 seconds of The Moment

I know, if I don't like all the same music as you, i'm a "cringe poser". Don't you know? All non-conformists drink coffee.
This post was edited on 6/3/16 at 12:57 pm
Posted by Cooter Davenport
Austin, TX
Member since Apr 2012
9006 posts
Posted on 6/3/16 at 1:06 pm to
I love The Sword. Hometown band right there!
Posted by Cooter Davenport
Austin, TX
Member since Apr 2012
9006 posts
Posted on 6/3/16 at 1:09 pm to
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New Orleans is a nook and cranny! always been good hard and heavy bands playing around town.


I love Down's NOLA album.
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