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Crow Pie
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Home Studio - Monitor Speakers to playback recordings
I am creating a small home studio/guitar room in the shop attached to my garage. I recently purchased a Focusrite Scarlett 2i2 (3rd Gen) to record/play guitar licks over drums tracks, backing tracks etc.

I have the Scarlet connected via RCA jacks to a Harmon Kardin AV monitor (CD input) I use for the TV and computer I have in the studio. I have a pair of JBL Vintage Monitor speakers which do great for the TV & computer. However, the sound output is not is clean as I think it should be with the live/recorded music (the bass is very "boomy")

Would buying a pair of entry level studio monitor speakers (example: PreSonus Eris E3.5-3.5" Near Field Studio Monitor) be worth the small investment of a $100 or waste of my money?

Can I get monitor speakers and solve this problem with out spending an irrational amount of money?

ps - I have headphones but prefer not to use them all the time

Any suggestions welcome.
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I have a pair of Yamaha HS8 speakers, for the music I make it allows me to get away without having a subwoofer.

Yamaha also makes HS5 speakers that people seem to like, you can get a new pair for around like $400 or so.

Eta

Also ADAM Audio T5V, and for Best budget KRK Rokit 5 G3 Studio Monitors new for a little over $250.
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Also ADAM Audio T5V, and for Best budget KRK Rokit 5 G3 Studio Monitors new for a little over $250.
That more in my range for now as somehow* I picked up a entry level bass, a PRS, an Epiphone SG and a Katana Boss 100 in the last 3 months.

*told my wife these are essential to our happiness in my retirement (in a few years)


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told my wife these are essential to our happiness



My SO is familiar with studio gear and overall gear that she knows when I'm full of shite over things. ..try explaining how you need another 1990s Black Les Paul standard or custom, with an ebony fretboard & chrome hardware..then, how you are just going to put EMG 81 pickups in it anyways while paying extra for the chrome cover.

All because you are wanting to dedicate a whole guitar to 1 single tuning.
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If you’re serious? Get the crappiest monitors you can; if you can make your mix sound good on those, it’ll sound amazing on something quality.

If you just want good sound? The Yamahas previously mentioned are supposed to be good. My dad had KRK Rokits in his home studio and I thought they sounded pretty good.


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If you’re serious? Get the crappiest monitors you can; if you can make your mix sound good on those, it’ll sound amazing on something quality.


Id say you want your mix to sound more accurate above all else. Studio monitors are designed to make things sound flat, which is what you want for accuracy. Also being able to recognize and eliminate or reduce frequencies in EQ. Especially when mixing isolated mono tracks.

Things like stereo speakers are designed to enhance certain audio features. Which are horrible to mix on. Really makes no sense to mix on anything besides quality speakers that are made for exactly just that.

Also, I find that any monitors smaller than 8" ultimately need an accompanying sub for better low end response. But I play and record metal, and not all music has the same requirements. But, your monitors, the positioning and your room make a difference.

Mixing is different from a final mastered product too, worrying about an accurate mix is first priority. Second is let someone else who is reputable master your mix.
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re: Home Studio - Monitor Speakers to playback recordings
It depends on what you are trying to do. At home, I am just doing really simple song demos with a couple of simple guitar parts and vocals to let the publisher hear the song. If the publisher likes it, he will pay to record it in a studio. I just use some decent computer speakers.

If you are wanting to get a finished product, you will need a better set.


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Someone mentioned using crappy speakers to monitor your mix. I think it was George Porter I heard in an interview say that the Meters would line-in to a little jam box with 2" speakers to monitor those old classic funk hits. The idea was that most people would be listening to the songs on a car stereo, which back in the 60s and 70s weren't very good. If it sounded good on the jam box it would sound good in the car. I guess these days most people listen to music on wireless ear buds. I've always heard that monitoring a mix on ear phones was a no no. So I don't know lol.


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It depends on what you are trying to do. At home, I am just doing really simple song demos with a couple of simple guitar parts and vocals to let the publisher hear the song.
Just fun. No publisher would hear what I play. I just want to jam and record it so I can jam on top of my jam!! Its just hobby that makes me happy so I got a bunch of gear to keep me busy for a long time. The new Ibanez bass not included in this pick is from before I started the remodel a few weeks ago.



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re: Home Studio - Monitor Speakers to playback recordings
To get a better sound it’s a combination of room treatment, AD/DA conversion and a good pair of reference monitors. I have a pair of the Yamaha HS8’s and I’m very satisfied. But I also have a very nice AD/DA converter that makes a WORLD of difference.

I made some modular sound absorbing panels out of rigid foam that I can place around a room for tracking or monitoring as needed. Every little bit counts.

This could set you on your way to finding something you may like. LINK


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re: Home Studio - Monitor Speakers to playback recordings
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Someone mentioned using crappy speakers to monitor your mix. I think it was George Porter I heard in an interview say that the Meters would line-in to a little jam box with 2" speakers to monitor those old classic funk hits. The idea was that most people would be listening to the songs on a car stereo, which back in the 60s and 70s weren't very good. If it sounded good on the jam box it would sound good in the car. I guess these days most people listen to music on wireless ear buds. I've always heard that monitoring a mix on ear phones was a no no. So I don't know lol.


Even high end studios keep crappy monitors around. They want to know that things sound good on all kinds of speakers.


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re: Home Studio - Monitor Speakers to playback recordings
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I have a pair of Yamaha HS8 speakers, for the music I make it allows me to get away without having a subwoofer.

Yamaha also makes HS5 speakers that people seem to like, you can get a new pair for around like $400 or so.


I second this. I don't know of any other product with a cost/value ratio comparable to Yamaha's HS series, especially the 8s and 5s (the 7s are good, but for another $100 bucks you can move up to the 8s).


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Even high end studios keep crappy monitors around.
for after they've mixed with quality ones lol

Depending on the music you make, what you need is what you need. Its easier to get away with electronic and highly compressed samples, etc.

But if you're wanting to record distorted guitars, mic a drumkit, use DI amp sims, etc..you need to be able to EQ, by fitting the low end together with the drums and bass, reducing annoying guitar frequencies, and being able to fit the vocals in..but the key is being able to audibly recognize what you need.

I use HS8s for my home setup. Got them for a little over $300 each. Which isn't bad, as I've seen some going for $8000+ each.
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Do you really need two or would one do for simple playback of my jams? I am trying not to spend $800 which is what a pair of the HS8 would cost. The shed/room is only about 7' by 20'.
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Do you really need two or would one do for simple playback of my jams?


I just like the idea of listening in stereo.

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The shed/room is only about 7' by 20'.



If you are not going to push the volume for playback, I'd just get a pair of HS5s, honestly.


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re: Home Studio - Monitor Speakers to playback recordings
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Do you really need two


Absolutely

And if I were you in that space,, I'd go with a pair of KRK Rokit 5 G3 speakers. And then work my way up if I wanted to later.

You can get a pair of those for less than $300 on reverb. Quality playback is a beneficial investment when recording at home.
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Crow Pie
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Absolutely

And if I were you in that space,, I'd go with a pair of KRK Rokit 5 G3 speakers. And then work my way up if I wanted to later.

You can get a pair of those for less than $300 on reverb. Quality playback is a beneficial investment when recording at home.

Im going to look/listen at a pair of KRK ROKIT 5 G4 5" at Guitar Center tomorrow $358 for 2 but I usually can get 10% of if I call in to th online sales dept.


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Sounds good, What audio interface and DAW are you using btw?


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re: Home Studio - Monitor Speakers to playback recordings
I have a set of these, they sound amazing for general music listening or when I record things like you suggest. Highly recommend them especially for under $300 price point!

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Home Studio - Monitor Speakers to playback recordings


Focusrite Scarlett 2i2 (3rd Gen) (bundle with Mic and headphones) It came with Ableton Live Lite and Pro Tools First and others to download which I did. I also had Garageband on a old Mac but all of these are too daunting so I am using Audacity which is about the simplest version I could find until I have time to study how to use the more complicated versions.

I just have been capturing my basic 1- 4 chord jams (some w bass, keyboard and drums) and play lead over them at this point. Have jotted down some lyric but it will be a while before I get to that.

One thing I learned is that speeding or slowing down a track just 5% really alters the notes and the sound substantially.

Is there a DAW that you think is the best of the choices I listed to invest the time into learning to using? ProTools?
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