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Guitar guys??? BEST training exercise?

Posted on 2/16/16 at 5:56 pm
Posted by LSU alum wannabe
Katy, TX
Member since Jan 2004
26999 posts
Posted on 2/16/16 at 5:56 pm
What you got?

When I am not doing a regular online lesson and just dicking around with it what SHOULD I be doing?

What finger exercise? Dexterity? Just scales? Just chord changes?

Any actual players intermediate to advanced, if you had it to do over again which lesson would you have thrown in sooner? Or which exercise would you have done until you drove your family batshit?
Posted by HVAU
Far, far away
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 2/16/16 at 6:40 pm to
Every scale you can get your hands on. Run them in each mode, in each key. Single and multiple octaves. Arpeggiated. Run them by interval, i.e. root second, root third, root fourth, etc. Run them in broken seconds, third, fourths, etc. Run them in cycles of fourths and fifths. Work on extending the chords scalarly, i.e. Major, major seven, major eleven, minors and diminished. Practice the arpeggios and their inversions in a scalar fashion. Work on your ear. Recognizing scanned, modes, interval and chord qualities. Work on your reading.
Posted by ZacAttack
The Land Mass
Member since Oct 2012
6416 posts
Posted on 2/16/16 at 7:22 pm to
What's your goal?
Posted by LSU alum wannabe
Katy, TX
Member since Jan 2004
26999 posts
Posted on 2/16/16 at 7:50 pm to
quote:

Every scale you can get your hands on. Run them in each mode, in each key. Single and multiple octaves. Arpeggiated. Run them by interval, i.e. root second, root third, root fourth, etc. Run them in broken seconds, third, fourths, etc. Run them in cycles of fourths and fifths. Work on extending the chords scalarly, i.e. Major, major seven, major eleven, minors and diminished. Practice the arpeggios and their inversions in a scalar fashion. Work on your ear. Recognizing scanned, modes, interval and chord qualities. Work on your reading.




Ummm.... That's everything, no?

That's like me asking for an exercise, and you listing a 20 year long exercise of "learn to play."

I assume you are paid to play at times or play in public places if you have all of that down?
This post was edited on 2/16/16 at 7:56 pm
Posted by LSU alum wannabe
Katy, TX
Member since Jan 2004
26999 posts
Posted on 2/16/16 at 7:52 pm to
quote:

What's your goal?



Pick up where Jim Croce left off.

I'm 12 years older than Croce when he died, so I need some tips. FAST!!!

ETA.... Seriously... Be decent with an acoustic guitar.

Think I forgot to mention that in the OP. Acoustic only. Don't want to go down the wormhole of electric guitar, and pedals, and gear, and amps, and on and on.
This post was edited on 2/16/16 at 7:54 pm
Posted by ZacAttack
The Land Mass
Member since Oct 2012
6416 posts
Posted on 2/16/16 at 8:09 pm to
If that's it I'd recommend chord changes.

Why you would want or need to learn every scale is beyond me.
Posted by ChatRabbit77
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2013
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Posted on 2/16/16 at 8:30 pm to
Hybrid picking will help you become a better player.
Posted by HVAU
Far, far away
Member since Sep 2010
4587 posts
Posted on 2/16/16 at 8:43 pm to
I'm a professional double bassist. It is a lot, but if you're looking to fill your time that's a start.

The guys at the top have a ton more talent than me and many still practice hours a day. If you've got the time it's the right way to get better.

Eta: Just saw your goals post. I'd still run a lot of scales for finger independence, but I'd focus on playing the most common chord progressions and playing them with good time. Play with a drummer, drum loop or metronome if you can.
This post was edited on 2/16/16 at 8:47 pm
Posted by TheSlizzardKing
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Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 2/16/16 at 8:52 pm to
Jack off and then play. Your hands and fingers will be nice and lubed still giving you a smoother touch on the neck and strings.
Posted by Dandy Lion
Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 2/16/16 at 9:00 pm to
LIFE IN THE FAST LANE
Posted by LSU alum wannabe
Katy, TX
Member since Jan 2004
26999 posts
Posted on 2/16/16 at 9:03 pm to
quote:

Jack off and then play. Your hands and fingers will be nice and lubed still giving you a smoother touch on the neck and strings.


Do you not jerk off or not play guitar?

Sounds like a good way to screw up the tips of fret fingers.
Posted by TheSlizzardKing
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Posted on 2/16/16 at 9:11 pm to
Nah bro the semen is the best lube for your strings. Very natural gloss to them after.
Posted by AmosMosesAndTwins
Lake Charles
Member since Apr 2010
17886 posts
Posted on 2/16/16 at 9:21 pm to
I can't speak for everyone but starting on bass probably helped me a lot. By the time I moved onto guitar, I knew my way around the neck in a simpler way. The hand strength required for bass transferred to crisp, no fret-buzz notes. I would have taken lessons when switching if given the chance to do it over, but everything coming at once to beginners seems like it would be overwhelming.
Posted by PeaRidgeWatash
Down by the docks of the city
Member since Dec 2004
15210 posts
Posted on 2/17/16 at 8:08 am to
Practice with a metronome.

The right hand, for a right handed player is what makes a guitar player a musician.
Posted by randybobandy
NOLA
Member since Mar 2015
1908 posts
Posted on 2/17/16 at 8:52 am to
Make beautiful music with your instrument... forget about exercising your fingers, playing guitar should not be a wankfest. Unless your name is yngwie.
Posted by TheSlizzardKing
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Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 2/17/16 at 9:42 am to
quote:

The right hand, for a right handed player is what makes a guitar player a musician.


Amen. The best players are those with a skilled rhythm hand.
Posted by ZacAttack
The Land Mass
Member since Oct 2012
6416 posts
Posted on 2/17/16 at 5:38 pm to
Slight hijack: one thing I've always struggled with on both guitar and bass is moving positions on the neck. Anybody got any tips for learning the notes at each position?
Posted by ColoradoAg03
Denver, CO
Member since Oct 2012
6185 posts
Posted on 2/17/16 at 5:52 pm to
You'll be a master after this video.

LINK
Posted by HVAU
Far, far away
Member since Sep 2010
4587 posts
Posted on 2/17/16 at 8:35 pm to
Having a firm foundation or system in positions is important. I didn't realize that until I began playing upright.

With upright you have develop a lot of muscle memory for position shifting. It's helped my playing on every string instrument.

I'm not sure what guitar methods focus on position systems. I used Simandl, Nanny and Rabbath on upright. Surely, there equivalents for all string instruments.
Posted by PPL
Member since Nov 2010
447 posts
Posted on 2/18/16 at 6:39 am to
This guy knew a thing or two about how to approach the instrument...

Scales and theory are great but they're just tools to help you put together whatever you're trying to build, so don't get too carried away. Work on developing your ear and crafting songs and then figure out how to get there.
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