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Found a ridiculous Martin fake on Facebook Marketplace today

Posted on 1/10/21 at 8:11 pm
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
52190 posts
Posted on 1/10/21 at 8:11 pm
Dude claims this is a Martin D35 and is asking $2200 for it.








To cleanse your palate of that garbage, here's my Martin HD-28 I recently acquired.

Posted by mingoswamp
St. Louis
Member since Aug 2017
968 posts
Posted on 1/10/21 at 10:37 pm to
I have a 1966 D18 (last year of a real tortoise shell pick guard) that I've had since 1973. I'm ready to let it go, but I can't imagine letting it go for for $2200.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
52190 posts
Posted on 1/11/21 at 4:11 am to
That would still be Brazilian rosewood, correct?
Posted by auggie
Opelika, Alabama
Member since Aug 2013
27694 posts
Posted on 1/11/21 at 7:47 am to
I don't know a lot about Martins, but the first thing that doesn't look right to me is the fretboard. What else do you see that looks wrong?
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
52190 posts
Posted on 1/11/21 at 7:53 am to
I'm sure someone like Fretshack could point out more but the wood on the fretboard and bridge doesnt look right, the cutout of the fretboard around the soundhole, the sticker in the soundhole, the back bracing isn't right for a D35, the fretboard dot pattern isnt right, the fretboard binding looks odd, and I've never seen a D35 with a black pickguard although they might have some.
This post was edited on 1/11/21 at 12:07 pm
Posted by auggie
Opelika, Alabama
Member since Aug 2013
27694 posts
Posted on 1/11/21 at 8:43 am to
quote:

the cutout of the fretboard around the soundhole

That's what caught my attention, but there may an explanation.
quote:

the sticker in the soundhole,

Pretty sure I have seen real Martins with a sticker before, especially older ones, and after searching D-35s on Reverb.com I saw a couple with black pickguards. One was a 76 model, but the fretboard wasn't cut around the soundhole, like the one in your OP. One thing I did notice in the guitar in your OP, that pickguard was cut and placed perfectly, whoever did it. It also seems to have real bone nut and saddle. Did they show a photo of the back? That guitar should have a 3 piece back, right?
Posted by mingoswamp
St. Louis
Member since Aug 2017
968 posts
Posted on 1/11/21 at 9:03 am to
quote:

That would still be Brazilian rosewood, correct?


It is rosewood, but I don't remember the country of origin.

My brother had a D35 which never played or sounded right, so it found a new owner. If I recall correctly, the ebony fretboard developed a crack.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
52190 posts
Posted on 1/11/21 at 9:16 am to
quote:

Did they show a photo of the back? That guitar should have a 3 piece back, right?

No photo of the back but it should have a three piece back
Posted by auggie
Opelika, Alabama
Member since Aug 2013
27694 posts
Posted on 1/11/21 at 9:20 am to
I don't do facebook, so I don't know how it works. Can you ask the seller for a photo of the back? and back of the neck?
Posted by LSU alum wannabe
Katy, TX
Member since Jan 2004
26957 posts
Posted on 1/11/21 at 11:37 am to
quote:

photo of the back but it should have a three piece back


But the sound hole shows a center seam reinforcement. Which would not be a D-35.

Posted by LSU alum wannabe
Katy, TX
Member since Jan 2004
26957 posts
Posted on 1/11/21 at 11:39 am to
quote:

is rosewood, but I don't remember the country of origin.


A D-18 should be mahogany back and sides no?
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
52190 posts
Posted on 1/11/21 at 12:05 pm to
quote:

A D-18 should be mahogany back and sides no?





I believe thats correct
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
52190 posts
Posted on 1/11/21 at 12:06 pm to
quote:

But the sound hole shows a center seam reinforcement. Which would not be a D-35.


Correct. This was like the second thing I noticed after the soundhole sticker.
Posted by auggie
Opelika, Alabama
Member since Aug 2013
27694 posts
Posted on 1/11/21 at 12:41 pm to
This D-35 shows that type of construction
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Possible that the backs are laminated and the outside is façade.
The soundhole decoration of the guitar that's for sale, also looks correct.
I think it's possible that it is a real D-35 that has had the fretboard replaced with an incorrect piece.
This post was edited on 1/11/21 at 12:49 pm
Posted by TheFretShack
Member since Oct 2015
1234 posts
Posted on 1/11/21 at 12:48 pm to
I just looked up the serial number. Based on Martin's decades-old sequential SN system, and compared with annual production in recent years, this "Martin" is technically a 2022 model. AKA, they haven't gotten to 262xxxx yet.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
52190 posts
Posted on 1/11/21 at 12:51 pm to
Damn, its a time traveler.
Posted by auggie
Opelika, Alabama
Member since Aug 2013
27694 posts
Posted on 1/11/21 at 12:55 pm to
quote:

I just looked up the serial number. Based on Martin's decades-old sequential SN system, and compared with annual production in recent years, this "Martin" is technically a 2022 model. AKA, they haven't gotten to 262xxxx yet.

Damn, you cheated! I was going to look it up soon too, I was kind of enjoying the guesswork though.
Posted by SEClint
New Orleans, LA/Portland, OR
Member since Nov 2006
48769 posts
Posted on 1/11/21 at 1:37 pm to


Well look at this shite I found the other day. Look at the shipping the a-hole put on this
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
52190 posts
Posted on 1/11/21 at 1:52 pm to
Must be planning on walking it over personally
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