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re: Explain Dylan
Posted on 10/1/24 at 4:20 pm to Big Scrub TX
Posted on 10/1/24 at 4:20 pm to Big Scrub TX
quote:
In my world, you aren't getting my attention if the melody sucks (or doesn't exist).
Do you play music? Do you write and pitch songs to publishers?
I do.
I can tell you this, they almost don't give a crap about the music. It's easy to fix if the lyrics are right.
Most of my songs, I can do them at least 5 different ways. I just record which version I think works best.
I've seen hit songs picked up that were demoed on a Casio keyboard, by a guy playing with 1 finger. It was all about the lyrics.
A lot of your greatest songwriters can hardly play an instrument. They just play well enough to get their words across.
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Posted on 10/1/24 at 4:29 pm to Big Scrub TX
quote:
It's bizarre that we're unable to tell the difference between influences and stealing.
It's popular music, it's all pretty simple and all the same.
You can dress it up, or whatever, add bridges, turn a chorus around... it's still something that has already been done by someone before.
Posted on 10/1/24 at 4:45 pm to A12 Oxcart
quote:And bad on them.
Zeppelin has a lot. They didn't just steal melodies, they stole parts of songs and didn't always credit the original composers until they settled out of court:
Babe I'm Gonna Leave You
Dazed and Confused
Black Mountainside
How Many More Times
Lemon Song
Bring It On Home
There's probably more.
Posted on 10/2/24 at 10:52 am to auggie
quote:Yes.
Do you play music?
quote:Many moons ago.
Do you write and pitch songs to publishers?
quote:I don't have anything to say about whatever mess current music is, but it's impossible to believe what you're saying as pertaining to back in the day.
I can tell you this, they almost don't give a crap about the music. It's easy to fix if the lyrics are right.
Most of my songs, I can do them at least 5 different ways. I just record which version I think works best.
I've seen hit songs picked up that were demoed on a Casio keyboard, by a guy playing with 1 finger. It was all about the lyrics.
A lot of your greatest songwriters can hardly play an instrument. They just play well enough to get their words across.
But I know I can think of a current (or at least very recent example) that sort of bridges our two positions: The Lonely Island
The reason so many of their songs were so great was because the lyrics were funny as shite AND the music was often about as good as "real" music. Samberg has said that their method was to sift through "beats" (i.e. music) that was submitted and then they would set their lyrics to it.
It seems quite obvious to me that had The Lonely Island been merely spoken word OR had the task of writing the music been left up to just the 3 of them, we would have never heard of them.
Posted on 10/2/24 at 6:26 pm to kjntgr
Dylan covers
Here’s 70 hours of just Dylan songs covered by every genre of musician. People in the know, know.
Here’s 70 hours of just Dylan songs covered by every genre of musician. People in the know, know.
Posted on 10/12/24 at 12:48 am to pecanridge
Found online:
quote:
Reading a Wikipedia article on Robert Johnson the other day when I found out that King of the Delta Blues Singers can be found within the cover art of this record. It was John Hammond that turned Dylan on to Robert Johnson, and g-damn, is there any better way to evoke antiquity than to conjure a time when Bob Dylan didn’t know who the frick Robert Johnson was?
Posted on 10/12/24 at 1:06 am to Kafka
quote:
is there any better way to evoke antiquity than to conjure a time when Bob Dylan didn’t know who the frick Robert Johnson was?
Back in the days before the information super-highway, when we were exposed to things 1 record at a time, depending on who we were hanging out with.
Posted on 10/12/24 at 6:35 am to dchog
quote:
He sounded decent in his early years but his voice got worse later on.
Voice lessons would have done him a lot of good.
Not smoking would have done more. Totally ruined what voice he had.
Posted on 10/25/24 at 7:12 pm to Mizz-SEC
Posted on 10/25/24 at 7:27 pm to Marciano1
I think Desire is highly underrated. I like all of the songs, but Mozambique is my favorite.
Posted on 10/25/24 at 7:52 pm to sertorius
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I actually really like the stuff he's done for the past 30 years or so, beginning with Good As I Been To You and World Gone Wrong. Even like Triplicate.
true jokerman mindset i respect it
Posted on 10/30/24 at 6:52 pm to geauxjuice
Posted on 1/5/25 at 9:56 pm to Kafka
Posted on 1/5/25 at 9:56 pm to Kafka
Posted on 1/5/25 at 10:37 pm to auggie
It's like someone said about blues songs: the melody was written a hundred years ago.
Posted on 3/16/25 at 6:52 pm to FightinTigersDammit
Bob drops in on a Byrds show, early 1965
A photo from this show was used on the back cover of the debut album
A photo from this show was used on the back cover of the debut album
Posted on 3/16/25 at 7:56 pm to Kafka
I really liked this song and I told him so.
This post was edited on 3/16/25 at 8:12 pm
Posted on 3/16/25 at 7:57 pm to auggie
Embeds only work w/YT & Twitter
Posted on 3/16/25 at 8:00 pm to Kafka
Maybe I fixed it 
Posted on 3/17/25 at 6:34 am to kjntgr
Bob Dylan is the best songwriter I’ve ever seen in concert and the worst concert I’ve ever been to
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