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re: Drummers on here. Just curious?
Posted on 5/14/12 at 7:03 pm to Srbtiger06
Posted on 5/14/12 at 7:03 pm to Srbtiger06
An aside:
I don't know if any other TD drummers have done this BUT I read on another forum that refinishing the inside of your shells with teak oil really rounds them out. I ended up doing it a few months ago and the difference was amazing. Less ring, more 'pow'. Warmed them up a ton and they sound amazing.
I was playing clear emperors over clear diplomats or ambassadors for a while and switched to:
8" Tom: Clear Emperor / no reso
10" Tom: Coated Emperor / Coated Ambassador
12" Tom: Same
14" Floor: Controlled Sound Dot / Coated Ambassador
16" Floor: Coated PS3 / Coated Ambassador
Kick: Coated PS3 / Ebony PS3
With the re-finish....it sounds amazing
I don't know if any other TD drummers have done this BUT I read on another forum that refinishing the inside of your shells with teak oil really rounds them out. I ended up doing it a few months ago and the difference was amazing. Less ring, more 'pow'. Warmed them up a ton and they sound amazing.
I was playing clear emperors over clear diplomats or ambassadors for a while and switched to:
8" Tom: Clear Emperor / no reso
10" Tom: Coated Emperor / Coated Ambassador
12" Tom: Same
14" Floor: Controlled Sound Dot / Coated Ambassador
16" Floor: Coated PS3 / Coated Ambassador
Kick: Coated PS3 / Ebony PS3
With the re-finish....it sounds amazing
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Posted on 5/14/12 at 9:10 pm to LSU alum wannabe
OP - I started out playing guitar at 10 (currently 25) and probably when i was 21 or so i bought and electric kit. Feel in love the first day i sat down at them. Like most other drummers on here have said the practice quality of the electric set is great just due to noise control. But there is just something about sittin down behind the acoustics that just begs for aggression and passion.
I play with a band currently but we are definetly not big time. just play mostly NW GA, South Tennesse, and auburn area alot. But the rush of being on a stage is unrivaled in my opinion...There is NOTHING else like it in the world. Its like herion. Do it once and your hooked
I play with a band currently but we are definetly not big time. just play mostly NW GA, South Tennesse, and auburn area alot. But the rush of being on a stage is unrivaled in my opinion...There is NOTHING else like it in the world. Its like herion. Do it once and your hooked
Posted on 5/14/12 at 9:58 pm to gnarkill1529
Was really wondering back story on all the guys who post on here about drums and drummers. I have a buddy who has a huge kit. He has wanted it since we were kids back in hair metal days. His is ridiculous with double bass drums. He plays only for himself. I feel his kit is dumb and excessive but I am jealous. 
Posted on 5/14/12 at 10:34 pm to LSU alum wannabe
quote:
Was really wondering back story on all the guys who post on here about drums and drummers.
I'm 24 and played guitar since I was 10. I've played drums a little bit here and there but I've never had a kit. Last summer I cut off two fingers in a wood planer and had the perfect excuse to buy a set. Been playing ever since
Posted on 5/15/12 at 9:37 am to Srbtiger06
quote:Never heard of this. I will give this a try.
I don't know if any other TD drummers have done this BUT I read on another forum that refinishing the inside of your shells with teak oil really rounds them out.
Any drummers also playing other percussion, i.e. congas, etc? I have been drumming off and on again since age 9. Recently, I was asked by a friend if I would be willing to bring the polyrhythms to their soul/funk/blues group and agreed. All I can say is it is a tough transition but fun. The reason I bring this up is I have some questions re: conga heads.
Posted on 5/15/12 at 9:38 am to gnarkill1529
quote:what do you call your group? I live in this area.
just play mostly NW GA, South Tennesse,
Posted on 5/15/12 at 10:16 am to TigerWoody
quote:
Never heard of this. I will give this a try
Very tedious and time consuming but well worth it.
Gotta take off all hardware and then sand them down a good bit on the inside. I ended up sanding for 2 days. Probably 10 hours total. Started with 100 grit and worked down to the finest steel wool I could find.
After that, wipe them down with tac cloth to get all the dust off. Then wipe out with a damp rag and let them dry out for a day or so.
Then I got some soft soft cotton rags and put a medium coating in the shells. Gotta make sure it doesn't run through the holes because it's a BITCH to get off. I let it dry for an hour or so then lightly rubbed it with the steel wool again. Then took a slightly damp sponge and wiped the dust and shite out.
Let them sit overnight then I got a brush and ended up putting 3 layers on with at least 2 hours to dry between each one. Let them sit overnight and then did the light light wool again to make sure they're smooth then apply one last thin layer with the cloths.
Let em dry overnight then clean up your bearing edges and rub a little paraffin wax on them. Put all your hardware back on, throw some skins on, and tune em up.
I went ahead and replaced all my gaskets and stuff too. Greased my lugs. Replaced my washers with nylon ones.
Like I said, its a time consuming process but it was well worth it. Supposedly it is what Gretsch does with the Silver. Its just teak oil with a little silver rustoleum in it. It seals imperfections and make the drums more even sounding. On top of that, it keeps moisture out so humidity won't mess with your tuning and sound near as bad.
Plus if you use clear heads it looks bad arse. Adds alot of color and contrast to the wood grain.
Posted on 5/15/12 at 10:28 am to Srbtiger06
quote:
Last summer I cut off two fingers in a wood planer
Posted on 5/15/12 at 10:32 am to Cdawg
Actually it was kind of good. Had just taken a piss so I didn't have gloves on...that could've been much worse. It was quick and easy and surprisingly not that painful until after surgery
ETA: Plus it finally gave me an excuse to get a drum kit
ETA: Plus it finally gave me an excuse to get a drum kit
This post was edited on 5/15/12 at 10:33 am
Posted on 5/15/12 at 11:30 am to LSU alum wannabe
quote:
LSU alum wannabe - back story
I started in 1987 after seeing the music video for the Def Leppard song "Animal". The "Hysteria" album had just come out and, at that point, I had forgotten about the drummer's accident. This was before the Internet, so I had to rely on rock music magazines and what little I could find at the library to get me up to speed on his car accident.
I also really liked the song, so I bought the "Hysteria" cassette wore it out, along with my older "Pyromania" cassette. Those two albums are what I used to teach myself how to play. I spent the next ten years playing with friends wherever I could find a drum kit (couldn't afford my own) and reading every issue of Modern Drummer I could get my hands on.
I bought my first kit, a set of Premier XPKs, in 1998 and joined my first band around that same time. A year later, I upgraded to a DW Collector's kit, which I still play.
I've been in several bands over the years and done some regional touring. The touring was NOT fun (no money, sleeping in the van or at campgrounds, personality conflicts; etc.) and I'm glad I don't burn that candle anymore. It's all local cover bands for me now (excellent money and no travel), and playing at church on Sundays.
Posted on 5/15/12 at 11:33 am to Srbtiger06
quote:
Srbtiger06 - cymbals
I played Sabian Hand Hammered cymbals for years. Last year I sold them and switched to Paiste Signature Series Mellow cymbals and they're the best-sounding cymbals I've ever played. I've never played cymbals with a more perfect blend of high and low frequency tones. You should check into those if/when you get ready for a change...
Posted on 5/15/12 at 12:37 pm to Srbtiger06
quote:Holy crap! How long did this take, from the start to when you were playing them again?
Very tedious and time consuming but well worth it.
Posted on 5/15/12 at 12:49 pm to TigerWoody
quote:
Holy crap! How long did this take, from the start to when you were playing them again?
Keep in mind I didn't get to actually work on it until I was home from work at 530 or so. I put in about 3-5 hours for 4 days. Started on a Monday and got the hardware taken apart and some sanding. Finished sanding and cleaning Tuesday. Let them dry overnight. Applied first coat Wednesday at lunch. Cleaned/sanded that night. 2nd coat Thursday morning. 3rd and 4th Thursday night. Put a 5th coat on my maple snare and kick Friday morning. Sanded down everything one last time Friday night then rubbed in the final coat with cheese cloth a little bit after. Woke up Saturday morning and made sure everything was dry and reassembled the shells. Kick was still a little wet/sticky so I put a fan near it and let it dry while I I threw some new heads on the rest. Let them stretch a bit while I reassembled the kick. Threw skins on the kick, tuned it up, put it in place and then re-tuned the rest of my kit.
Disassemble/clean/wax shells: 3 hours
Posted on 5/15/12 at 12:54 pm to Srbtiger06
Disassemble/clean/wax: 3 hours
Initial sanding: 4-5 hours
Coating/sanding: 3-4 hours
Last sanding/coat: 2 hours
Reassemble: 2 hours
Setup/tune: 3-4 hours total over 2 days. Got em "right" until I was tone deaf and they all were just a "thud" to me then for them tuned properly in about an hour or two the next day.
Overall I'd say you could do it in 15-20 hours of actual work, no wait time included. It'd be a good weekend project. Disassemble Thursday night and be playing by Sunday evening.
Initial sanding: 4-5 hours
Coating/sanding: 3-4 hours
Last sanding/coat: 2 hours
Reassemble: 2 hours
Setup/tune: 3-4 hours total over 2 days. Got em "right" until I was tone deaf and they all were just a "thud" to me
then for them tuned properly in about an hour or two the next day. Overall I'd say you could do it in 15-20 hours of actual work, no wait time included
. It'd be a good weekend project. Disassemble Thursday night and be playing by Sunday evening. Posted on 5/15/12 at 1:23 pm to Srbtiger06
quote:I have a 6 yr old. This project would likely stretch out to a month, but I still might give it a go. I play a kit I don't like much but the price was right -- free. This might just be the thing to get closer to the sound I desire. I may even just turn this into a piece by piece project and start with the drum I am most dissatisfied with currently.
Overall I'd say you could do it in 15-20 hours of actual work, no wait time included . It'd be a good weekend project. Disassemble Thursday night and be playing by Sunday evening.
Thank you for all the details!
Posted on 5/15/12 at 1:40 pm to TigerWoody
No problem! I spent around $40 on supplies total but it was fun and worth it.
I loved my kit when I got it but it was a shade on the ringy side. This really warmed them up.
Biggest thing to look out for is evenness. Don't sand down too much on the shells, just get any old sealer out and open the pores up. Make your layers thin and, more importantly, even. That's what you want, the teak to seal the pores and imperfections. Its tough to explain, but if you do it then you'll see and feel what I mean. The tone rounds out and warms up beautifully. It makes tuning to that "sweet spot" 100000x easier too since alot of the harshness goes away and they hold tune better.
I loved my kit when I got it but it was a shade on the ringy side. This really warmed them up.
Biggest thing to look out for is evenness. Don't sand down too much on the shells, just get any old sealer out and open the pores up. Make your layers thin and, more importantly, even. That's what you want, the teak to seal the pores and imperfections. Its tough to explain, but if you do it then you'll see and feel what I mean. The tone rounds out and warms up beautifully. It makes tuning to that "sweet spot" 100000x easier too since alot of the harshness goes away and they hold tune better.
Posted on 5/15/12 at 1:49 pm to Srbtiger06
What are you playing on these?
Posted on 5/15/12 at 1:59 pm to TigerWoody
8" clear ambassadors
10 & 12 coated emperor over coated ambassadors
14" clear controlled sound dot over coated diplomat
16" coated power stroke 3 over coated diplomat
14" brass snare - emperor x over ambassador hazy with 42 strand pure sound wires
Kick - coated PS3 behind ebony ps3 ported
10 & 12 coated emperor over coated ambassadors
14" clear controlled sound dot over coated diplomat
16" coated power stroke 3 over coated diplomat
14" brass snare - emperor x over ambassador hazy with 42 strand pure sound wires
Kick - coated PS3 behind ebony ps3 ported
This post was edited on 5/15/12 at 2:01 pm
Posted on 5/15/12 at 2:02 pm to Srbtiger06
Sorry, should have been more clear. I saw those listed in your other post. I was referring to type/style music.
I am more focused on funk/soul/r&b with a little blues mixed in. Wondering if your refinish work would apply to my desired sound.
I saw those listed in your other post. I was referring to type/style music. I am more focused on funk/soul/r&b with a little blues mixed in. Wondering if your refinish work would apply to my desired sound.
Posted on 5/15/12 at 2:03 pm to Srbtiger06
quote:I love the look of that snare. What kind of sound do you get out of this?
14" brass snare - emperor x over ambassador hazy with 42 strand pure sound wires
This post was edited on 5/15/12 at 2:13 pm
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