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does it make you mad paying more for mp3 than a CD?
Posted on 4/15/13 at 9:30 am
Posted on 4/15/13 at 9:30 am
i'm not talking about the audiophiles but really anyone who has a good ear and appreciation for music.
who the hell wants a compressed version of anything when 30 - 40 years ago vinyl and CD copies were so much better?
it seems like an excuse for the RIAA to reset expectations and slowly bleed/leak higher resolution copies year over year.
case in point; the 'premium' iTunes version vs. 'regular'.
why not just go to a used CD store and pick up the CD for $3 so you'll have an unblemished source?
who the hell wants a compressed version of anything when 30 - 40 years ago vinyl and CD copies were so much better?
it seems like an excuse for the RIAA to reset expectations and slowly bleed/leak higher resolution copies year over year.
case in point; the 'premium' iTunes version vs. 'regular'.
why not just go to a used CD store and pick up the CD for $3 so you'll have an unblemished source?
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Posted on 4/15/13 at 9:35 am to CAD703X
I still buy CD's. I like having the case and inserts. Now, it has to be a CD I really want, but still, I like having the CD.
Posted on 4/15/13 at 9:39 am to CAD703X
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i'm not talking about the audiophiles but really anyone who has a good ear and appreciation for music.
who the hell wants a compressed version of anything when 30 - 40 years ago vinyl and CD copies were so much better?
it seems like an excuse for the RIAA to reset expectations and slowly bleed/leak higher resolution copies year over year.
case in point; the 'premium' iTunes version vs. 'regular'.
why not just go to a used CD store and pick up the CD for $3 so you'll have an unblemished source?
I'd be interested to see if you could tell the difference between WAV audio and an MP3 sampled at 320 kbits/s.
Posted on 4/15/13 at 9:41 am to CAD703X
I still like buying CD's of bands that I love. I enjoy having a physical copy of the music. Plus, they sound a lot better than a compressed Mp3 file. And if you want a digital copy of the album you can just rip the CD into itunes.
I don't mind the digital evolution of music because of the easy accessibility it has given people to obtain music, but I also miss the days of going to a record store and browsing around and talking to the employees about recommendations and such.
I don't mind the digital evolution of music because of the easy accessibility it has given people to obtain music, but I also miss the days of going to a record store and browsing around and talking to the employees about recommendations and such.
Posted on 4/15/13 at 9:50 am to CAD703X
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who the hell wants a compressed version of anything when 30 - 40 years ago vinyl and CD copies were so much better?
CDs didn't exist 40 years ago and it's very debatable whether vinyl was ever a better medium. Basically, people are obsessed with the nostalgic cackle and hiss of vinyl, but the technology has distinct limits on dynamic range.
As an audiophile, the much bigger issue today is shitty mixing/mastering within the confines of the loudness war.
If you want to hear a well-recorded album, go pick up Storm Corrosion.
Posted on 4/15/13 at 9:52 am to bobbyray21
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you could tell the difference between WAV audio and an MP3 sampled at 320 kbits/s.
I heard the same thing about 128kb files a few years ago..then the same thing about 160kb files...
personally I like V0 (variable bit rate) but now that I know what i'm listening to, I can definitely hear the cut-offs and different rates.
but that is avoiding the question.
Posted on 4/15/13 at 9:55 am to CAD703X
A lot of vinyl now is starting to come with a downloadable album. That's the only way I go now, or just hook my record player up to the computer and transfer it over that way.
Posted on 4/15/13 at 9:56 am to Jester
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CDs didn't exist 40 years ago
ok 31 years ago. you're splitting hairs.
my question is do you enjoy paying $1.19 for 128kb DRM files from iShittytunes?
Posted on 4/15/13 at 9:56 am to Jester
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As an audiophile,
Are your listening sources mostly CD'S or do you prefer to listen to FLAC files or lossles Mp3 files?
Posted on 4/15/13 at 10:02 am to CAD703X
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I heard the same thing about 128kb files a few years ago..then the same thing about 160kb files...
personally I like V0 (variable bit rate) but now that I know what i'm listening to, I can definitely hear the cut-offs and different rates.
but that is avoiding the question.
You want me to believe that you can hear an MP3 file being played and accurately name the compression rate?
Color me skeptical.
Posted on 4/15/13 at 10:05 am to bobbyray21
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You want me to believe that you can hear an MP3 file being played and accurately name the compression rate?
I didn't say that..i said I could hear the cut-offs at different rates
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hear the cut-offs and different rates
oh typo. replace "and" with "at"
Posted on 4/15/13 at 10:05 am to CAD703X
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my question is do you enjoy paying $1.19 for 128kb DRM files from iShittytunes?
When I buy music, I buy it from Amazon.
Posted on 4/15/13 at 10:10 am to bobbyray21
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I buy it from Amazon
no thank you
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Record Company Required Metadata
Record companies require us to insert identifiers in the metadata that accompanies music when you download it from the Amazon MP3 Store or Cloud Player. This includes music you have purchased from Amazon.com and matched music imported to Cloud Player from your device. These identifiers may include a random number Amazon assigns to your order or copy, purchase date and time, an indicator that the music was downloaded from Amazon, codes that identify the album and song (the UPC and ISRC), Amazon's digital signature, an identifier that can be used to determine whether the audio has been modified, and an indicator whether the music was purchased from the MP3 Store or imported to Cloud Player.
Posted on 4/15/13 at 10:21 am to CAD703X
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Record Company Required Metadata
Record companies require us to insert identifiers in the metadata that accompanies music when you download it from the Amazon MP3 Store or Cloud Player. This includes music you have purchased from Amazon.com and matched music imported to Cloud Player from your device. These identifiers may include a random number Amazon assigns to your order or copy, purchase date and time, an indicator that the music was downloaded from Amazon, codes that identify the album and song (the UPC and ISRC), Amazon's digital signature, an identifier that can be used to determine whether the audio has been modified, and an indicator whether the music was purchased from the MP3 Store or imported to Cloud Player.
Better than DRMs
Posted on 4/15/13 at 10:27 am to bobbyray21
is it really?
amazon is the same company who removed 'illegal' ebooks off end user's kindles istr.
amazon is the same company who removed 'illegal' ebooks off end user's kindles istr.
Posted on 4/15/13 at 10:42 am to CAD703X
Do you feel CD's sound way better than MP3's or do you feel the difference is discernible?
Posted on 4/15/13 at 10:44 am to CBandits82
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Do you feel CD's sound way better than MP3's or do you feel the difference is discernible?
oh yeah. at first I thought 128kb mp3s sounded as good as a CD
then a friend (ben folds' studio sound engineer) taught me how to notice the cut-off and I realized just how awful they sounded.
I can't really tell much with VBR, that's my go-to format to rip CDs in. I only use FLAC when i'm tossing the CD out and want a lossless copy as well.
Posted on 4/15/13 at 10:47 am to CAD703X
It has a lot to do with what you are using to listen to the music as well. I you are using shitty apple ear buds you aren't gonna tell much of a difference.
Posted on 4/15/13 at 10:48 am to CAD703X
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then a friend (ben folds' studio sound engineer) taught me how to notice the cut-off and I realized just how awful they sounded.
Can you elaborate on this?
Posted on 4/15/13 at 10:49 am to CAD703X
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is it really?
amazon is the same company who removed 'illegal' ebooks off end user's kindles istr
Yes, I think that limitations on the number of times a digital file can be copied is much worse than identifying metadata.
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