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re: Beginning guitarists: acoustic or electric?
Posted on 4/22/16 at 1:16 pm to Frank Black
Posted on 4/22/16 at 1:16 pm to Frank Black
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Posted on 4/22/16 at 6:09 pm to OceanMan
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Acoustic. Try and get a student guitar, not one that only plays well with top of the neck open string chords. I actually learned on an old Gibson student guitar. It took a while, and sure at times it is downright difficult to play, but you got to get your reps in.
I read something from Keith Richards recently, and he recommended doing the same. With an acoustic, you can really learn how to get certain sounds out of a guitar, or what it truly sounds like when you play a certain way. It becomes easier to distinguish what other guitar players are doing, or what effects are added if you know what it sounds like bare-bones.
Also, you will find that no one wants to hear you play an electric guitar, especially while you are learning.
But seriously, you will not ant to turn an amp up super loud for the sake of other people, and won't be "all-in" while you play because it could get loud. Lastly, it has taken almost 10 years, but I can now label myself as a guitar player, and as a a guitar player, electric should only be played through a tube, and should be played loud.
Good luck learning, don't give up, pick that sucker up every day. And as someone above me said, my best piece of advice is to practice with purpose. Learn chords, their names, and relationships between notes; don't be intimidated, and you will be better for it. Again, I spent at least 5 years embarrassed to play in front of pretty much anyone...whatever your learning curve, just beast through it and one day you will find yourself impressed with how far you have come.
Great observations and advice.
Posted on 4/23/16 at 5:51 am to Mars duMorgue
I think you should start on an acoustic,the very best that you can afford.Starting out,you need a good light action.Get help picking it out,from somebody that is a good player,who doesn't work at the music store.Don't buy a guitar that just looks cool.Don't be afraid to buy one that that is a little beat up,as long as it is a sound guitar. The really good guitars get the hell played out of them.You can buy cool looking ones later on.
Maybe just as important,buy a good tuner at the same time. Use it.
After you start learning,hang out at the music store. Try out different guitars,but pay attention to the instruments that the good older pickers gravitate to,and what they stay away from.
Another really good thing to do,is find another person that is also learning,you will help each other
Maybe just as important,buy a good tuner at the same time. Use it.
After you start learning,hang out at the music store. Try out different guitars,but pay attention to the instruments that the good older pickers gravitate to,and what they stay away from.
Another really good thing to do,is find another person that is also learning,you will help each other
This post was edited on 4/23/16 at 6:20 am
Posted on 4/23/16 at 6:38 am to Frank Black
That's the first time I have seen those,reminded me of some of my nightmares. I have dreams sometimes where I am trying to play and the strings aren't working right and it doesn't make any sense.
Posted on 4/23/16 at 8:23 pm to Cold Cous Cous
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You are gonna love this one
Oh man! That is bad!
BUT, she could help herself by ditching the guitar and just "singing." You know, it could be worse. After all, she DID remember all of the lyrics.
Posted on 4/24/16 at 9:07 am to 19
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Wut
He recommended starting acoustic? What exactly is hard to comprehend about this?
Posted on 4/24/16 at 9:21 am to Mars duMorgue
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Great observations and advice
Just re read OP and realized you weren't a beginner
Thanks though, I think it is nevertheless good advice, and as long as someone is motivated and pushes past those blisters and newbie embarrassment, they will be fine on whatever instrument they choose.
Posted on 4/24/16 at 3:09 pm to OceanMan
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Wut
Responding to a lot in that post, but mostly the idea of taking advice from Keith Richards...widely considered to be a world-class hack, universally known to have the IQ of a tail gate.
I just found it funny, in a serious post about learning to play, to find KR name thrown out.
I'll never forget my HS Physics teacher jumping my arse after a poor showing on a test. He wrote: "Take the assignments seriously. Who do you want to be, David Gilmour or Keith Richards?"
Posted on 4/24/16 at 5:37 pm to OceanMan
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as long as someone is motivated and pushes past those blisters and newbie embarrassment, they will be fine on whatever instrument they choose.
That's the truth and I'm living proof.
I am NOT a musically inclined person; I picked up the guitar 8-9 years ago because I wanted to write songs.
But I got hooked, practiced daily to this day, and nine years later ...
Okay, so I'm just a decent rhythm guitarist. But I played with my band today and we ran through 14 songs I wrote--I have another 60 or so in my songbook, and I'm working on new stuff all the time.
The point is I love what I'm doing--and the fact that I'm just a so-so guitarist doesn't diminish my enjoyment at all.
I can pretty much guarantee that same enjoyment for anyone who, as you wrote, gets into it. Whether or not you become the next Eric Clapton, you WILL be rewarded for your effort.
Love your guitar and it'll love you back.
Posted on 4/24/16 at 5:57 pm to Mars duMorgue
I learned Blackbird by the Beatles on a classical guitar...everything been easy since!
This post was edited on 4/24/16 at 6:02 pm
Posted on 4/24/16 at 8:43 pm to 19
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taking advice from Keith Richards...widely considered to be a world-class hack, universally known to have the IQ of a tail gate.
What in the world? A hack? Keith Richards has come up with some of the most memorable riffs in rock and roll history. How is he a hack exactly?
My suggestion would be to learn on an acoustic to learn the instrument, build finger strength and finger picking technique. It will make electric playing easier and you will appreciate the instrument more.
Just my two cents. Been playing acoustic, electric for 17 years and bass for 22.
Posted on 4/24/16 at 8:59 pm to 19
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Keith Richards...widely considered to be a world-class hack
You have got to be high
Posted on 4/25/16 at 8:15 am to 19
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widely considered to be a world-class hack, universally known to have the IQ of a tail gate.
Sigh. Totally misses on what makes Richards great.
And he's actually a very intelligent, well read guy (although, admittedly, he disguises it well at times).
Posted on 4/25/16 at 8:18 am to Mars duMorgue
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What do you guitar players out there say--should a beginner begin on acoustic guitar? Electric?
Unless the player knows that he is going to specialize on the electric guitar (which should be rare), then, I agree that learning should be done on the acoustic, particularly getting CAGED and barre chords down. I think it can be frustrating to play power chords on an acoustic, but that's easy enough to wait until the transition is being made to electric and that is a good introduction to the clear differences in the instruments.
Posted on 4/25/16 at 9:55 am to monsterballads
For real man, Kieth Richards is one of my favorites.
Posted on 4/28/16 at 1:13 pm to 19
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Responding to a lot in that post, but mostly the idea of taking advice from Keith Richards...widely considered to be a world-class hack,
Wut. I mean seriously, you think the primary guitarist, in the fricking Rolling Stones, is a hack? I'm not sure it is even debatable, they are the most sucessful band of all time. That didn't happen for no reason.
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universally known to have the IQ of a tail gate.
ok...surely you would have to think that someone that can compose and perform an original piece of music is not that stupid right?
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I just found it funny, in a serious post about learning to play, to find KR name thrown out.
Keith Richards has been a professional guitarist for over 50 years. 50 years. I don't care what you think of his playing style, there aren't that many people more qualified to give guitar advice than him.
People like you shouldn't be chiming in on a learning to play guitar thread, anyway. You already have a preconceived notion of what makes a good guitar player good, and serve as a barrier for people to pick up the guitar in the first place because they don't want to be judged. Keith Richards has written some of the best and most catchy guitar riffs/melodic lines in the history of modern music. I don't give a shite that he can't sweep pick, he knows how to make the guitar sound good. He said he learned how to make the guitar sound good on an acoustic, because of the intimacy between sound and fingers. I don't see how that isn't good advice, as it is completely logical.
Posted on 4/28/16 at 7:16 pm to OceanMan
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Keith Richards has written some of the best and most catchy guitar riffs/melodic lines in the history of modern music.
"Satisfaction" is the song that ushered in the last 50 years of rock 'n roll.
No "Satisfaction" no Kinks, Who, Zeppelin, Hendrix, Clash, Pistols, Ramones, Springsteen, Moorhead, Metallica, Eagles, Stooges, Aerosmith, Sabbath, Grand Funk, KISS and on and on. Maybe even no Stones.
For that riff alone, Richards should be remembered as one of the most influential rockers of all time.
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