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re: Audiophile/Vinyl Thread - Post Pics, Advice, Questions, Setups, etc.

Posted on 2/10/20 at 1:21 am to
Posted by Marco Esquandolas
Member since Jul 2013
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Posted on 2/10/20 at 1:21 am to
First order of business—you need to know what you want to achieve.
Second—gotta have a ballpark budget.

With those 2 things done, a dialogue can begin.


Posted by stonedbegonias
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 2/10/20 at 1:37 am to
I know nothing about turntables. I want a good quality one that will last and sounds amazing and would be compatible with a surround sound system. Very simple setup I guess. Good quality. My budget is flexible. I don’t need pro stuff, but I want quality and it to be very nice.
Posted by stonedbegonias
Member since Jan 2010
11577 posts
Posted on 2/10/20 at 1:51 am to
Holy crap, was looking on Best Buy’s website. I had no idea how expensive that stuff can get. I guess Magnolia is a good brand, that’s some serious high dollar stuff.

Would something like this be decent to start out with? Best Buy
Posted by VABuckeye
Naples, FL
Member since Dec 2007
35479 posts
Posted on 2/10/20 at 6:38 am to
I'd get one of the starter models from U-Turn or Pro-Ject before I'd get that Audio Technica.

U-Turn Turntables

Pro-Ject Audio
Posted by logjamming
Member since Feb 2014
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Posted on 2/10/20 at 8:04 am to
quote:

I'd get one of the starter models from U-Turn or Pro-Ject before I'd get that Audio Technica


Big fan of the UTurn Orbit. Great customer service as well.
Posted by VABuckeye
Naples, FL
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 2/11/20 at 7:35 pm to
If you don’t need the amp then take a look at the NAD C 658. Doesn’t have the slick screen on front but by all other accounts it’s about the same thing without the amplifier section.
This post was edited on 2/11/20 at 7:36 pm
Posted by dunkelman
shreveport
Member since Oct 2005
1374 posts
Posted on 2/11/20 at 11:28 pm to
The LUMIN S1 got a good listen tonight. I can say enough positive things about it. Very impressed with its dynamics. At first, it was set up to play digital audio which apparently by-passes the16 internal DACs. Disappointing. Once I figure out how to set it for analog output, the damn thing came alive. Spent most of the night comparing MQA to FLAC. I’m a MQA believer now.

Also, great not to have to choose between my CD library vs. inferior sound quality. Lots of great recordings out there that I don’t own a copy of.

This post was edited on 2/13/20 at 10:27 pm
Posted by GeauxSpelledGuaux
Member since Sep 2011
2 posts
Posted on 2/12/20 at 8:33 am to
Good advice on the C658. I demo'd one of these to give some feedback to my audio dealer. I didn't test the phono stage but the DAC rivaled my Mcintosh C47. At the price point for an all in one solution it would be hard to beat.
Posted by river_man
On the banks of the Mississippi
Member since Feb 2015
875 posts
Posted on 2/20/20 at 7:19 pm to
Best to ever do it...



Townes Van Zandt “Our Mother The Mountain”, (50th Anniversary Edition)

He was always best with just a guitar and his voice, and most of his studio albums suffer from over-production, but there are some great tunes here. Townes in his prime.
Posted by NewIberiaHaircut
Lafayette
Member since May 2013
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Posted on 2/21/20 at 7:04 pm to
quote:

was set up to play digital audio which apparently by-passes the16 internal DACs


What’s the reason for needing 16 DACs?
Posted by Marco Esquandolas
Member since Jul 2013
11423 posts
Posted on 2/21/20 at 9:25 pm to
Multiple DACs (2 each channel in the S1 for total of 4) can work in parallel (multi-bit) in PCM (pulse code modulation) as you climb the sample rate ladder...16 bits...more processing on the fly when needed...(4, 8, 16, 32, 64, 128, 256, 512....) as opposed to DSD/DXD single bit.
Posted by 45acp
Near The Big Chicken
Member since Jul 2007
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Posted on 2/23/20 at 6:38 pm to
Posted by 45acp
Near The Big Chicken
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Posted on 2/23/20 at 7:47 pm to
Posted by dunkelman
shreveport
Member since Oct 2005
1374 posts
Posted on 2/24/20 at 8:26 pm to
This is from the LUMIN website on the S1:

quote:

4 ESS SABRE32 ES9018 DAC chips 2 units per channel delivering 16 DACs per channel in parallel


Not sure what this means. Seems to say there are two chips per channel delivering 16 DACs per channel.

Rational for this is nonetheless as you describe.
Posted by Marco Esquandolas
Member since Jul 2013
11423 posts
Posted on 2/25/20 at 3:56 pm to
The SABRE32 chips are multichannel (8 channels each in the ES9018) chips that can process at 32 bits (32 is used more in pro/studio/editing while 16 and 24 are seen more in home /audiophile applications)...they are also frequently used in high end DolbyDigital/DTS 7.1 surround processors (which command 8 discrete channels—hence, 8 channel DACs).

Lumin, and other manufacturers of high end media players, will sometimes “stack” DACs, meaning they will have multiple DACs processing in unison. In this case, they are using (2) ES9018 DACs (8 channels each) PER CHANNEL for a total of 16 DACs/channels for LEFT and 16 DACs/channels for RIGHT.

The DACs channels can be stacked, so to speak, meaning that they can all work together for more power while in PCM mode (multi-bit)...every doubling of # of DACs results in about 4dB increase in dynamic range—which is why the Lumin S1 has a huge dynamic range of 139dB!


...if that makes sense...




Posted by diddlydawg7
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Member since Oct 2017
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Posted on 2/26/20 at 1:52 pm to
So I recently got a U-Turn Orbit Plus. I currently have 5 albums

- A Sailors Guide to Earth by Sturgill Simpson
- Southeastern by Jason Isbell
- Graceland by Paul Simon
- Hotel California by Eagles
- Born to Run by Bruce Springsteen

The record is skipping on the 1st track of the B side of Born to Run. All my other records play and sound great.

I’m assuming this is an issue with the record and I should return it right?
Posted by VABuckeye
Naples, FL
Member since Dec 2007
35479 posts
Posted on 2/26/20 at 3:14 pm to
Did you clean it?
Posted by diddlydawg7
2x Best Poster Elite 8 (2x Sweet 16
Member since Oct 2017
27519 posts
Posted on 2/26/20 at 3:29 pm to
quote:

Did you clean it?


Yep. I clean every record before I play it. It was my first time playing that record.
This post was edited on 2/26/20 at 3:30 pm
Posted by DB10_AFC
South Louisiana
Member since Jun 2012
7080 posts
Posted on 2/26/20 at 4:00 pm to
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45acp


Man Kano is my favorite UK rapper. Really cool to see. I love Hoodies All Summer and have it on vinyl . In my top 3 hip hop albums from last year.




Love seeing Gang Starr also. I occasionally check this thread and haven't seen much hip hop. Nice posts.

Posted by diddlydawg7
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Member since Oct 2017
27519 posts
Posted on 2/26/20 at 4:55 pm to
Also, what do y’all do with the posters you get with the records? Just keep them in the album or do you do something special?
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