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re: Audiophile/Vinyl Thread - Post Pics, Advice, Questions, Setups, etc.
Posted on 12/27/17 at 3:44 pm to TigerRob82
Posted on 12/27/17 at 3:44 pm to TigerRob82
I am not sure on the Loki, If I had time right now, I would call Schiit and ask about the prospects of using it as a stand alone preamp. You will find many that will argue the merits for and against eq's. I do see it only has one load setting - 47K ohm or wide open, but that'll work with either MM or High Output MC.
I think having a quality entry level TT (mine is a Rega Planar 3), a solid preamp (Schiit Mani for me), good quality integrated amp (I have a Quad Vena) and good speakers (I have Monitor Audio Bronze 2's) is the way to go. Marco is the real expert, but I would definitely emphasize quality in amp and speakers.
What are you looking to spend total? Marco is the expert's expert, but I can give you some good suggestions on high quality entry-level (and slightly above) enthusiast gear.
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I think having a quality entry level TT (mine is a Rega Planar 3), a solid preamp (Schiit Mani for me), good quality integrated amp (I have a Quad Vena) and good speakers (I have Monitor Audio Bronze 2's) is the way to go. Marco is the real expert, but I would definitely emphasize quality in amp and speakers.
What are you looking to spend total? Marco is the expert's expert, but I can give you some good suggestions on high quality entry-level (and slightly above) enthusiast gear.
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Posted on 12/27/17 at 3:53 pm to BigPapiDoesItAgain
Im looking to stay around $1k to start ideally.
Posted on 12/27/17 at 6:42 pm to TigerRob82
I second the quad Vena.... I think a few of us have it. That being said, it alone is near 1k. Although an open box version can be had on music direct for $600. There are some other options, but I’d definitely recommend an integrated amp.
Whatever you do, don’t forget the cost of cables and interconnects.
Whatever you do, don’t forget the cost of cables and interconnects.
Posted on 12/27/17 at 7:11 pm to HebertFest08
What needs to be replaced first, quad or black cube?
Posted on 12/27/17 at 7:17 pm to davidlsu
Depends...what are you trying to achieve? What are your deficiencies?
I used a Black Cube in a $60k system about 9 years ago--it's that good.
I used a Black Cube in a $60k system about 9 years ago--it's that good.
This post was edited on 12/27/17 at 7:27 pm
Posted on 12/27/17 at 7:33 pm to HebertFest08
What is your room size? Are you operating under any restraints related to WAF (wife acceptance factor)? Like, can you have floor speakers, or do you have to have bookshelf speakers? How flexible are you on your budget, and can you build over time? Like do you have some old speakers you can run with for a while until you can get what you want? And lastly, do you live somewhere where you could possibly snap up some stuff from craigslist (or even Audiogon or US audio mart)?
Posted on 12/27/17 at 11:35 pm to BigPapiDoesItAgain
^^^^
...what he said.
BigPapi--you seem to have a pretty good handle on this whole audio thing.
...what he said.
BigPapi--you seem to have a pretty good handle on this whole audio thing.
Posted on 12/28/17 at 8:19 am to Marco Esquandolas
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BigPapi--you seem to have a pretty good handle on this whole audio thing.
Haha. Thanks to your help. Your conversations have taught me well...and when I was looking, I read this thread several times.
Posted on 12/28/17 at 8:29 am to BigPapiDoesItAgain
the Room is about 15 x 20 ish vaulted ceilings It will be my main sitting room. As long as I can hide wires and make it look neat the wife will be fine. I plan on building over time, so I would like to buy upgradable things or at least things that can server me in other rooms etc once I do. Budget is a little flexible for now, but I am remodeling other parts of the house so id rather stay close. I'm in BR so I haven't seen much stuff on craigslist ( albeit I don't know exactly what all I'm looking for yet) I'm looking to build a nice base station so I can decide if I am ready to dump a bunch money into this hobby.( I am going to dig through my family's old storage unit, I think we have some old vinyl and possibly speakers etc. but I'm not counting on it)
It kills me because when I was 18 I had 2 Technic 1200 mk3's and speakers etc for Djing,and when I stopped I sold all of my gear cheap.
It kills me because when I was 18 I had 2 Technic 1200 mk3's and speakers etc for Djing,and when I stopped I sold all of my gear cheap.
This post was edited on 12/28/17 at 9:15 am
Posted on 12/28/17 at 9:16 am to TigerRob82
Posted on 12/28/17 at 9:53 am to TigerRob82
JBL LSR305 vs. Edifier S2000
From what I've seen so far, the LSR305 is a solid bookshelf speaker.
From what I've seen so far, the LSR305 is a solid bookshelf speaker.
This post was edited on 12/28/17 at 9:56 am
Posted on 12/28/17 at 10:00 am to Jester
Honestly, I had never seen the Presonus Eris E4.5 before you sent me on this mission, but they seem to be a solid set of bookshelf speakers. They also get bonus points for being a local company.
You should definitely look into some of the Edifier options, also. They always seem to get really good reviews. There is no right answer, though. Different speakers work differently with different genres, so one may sound better with jazz while another sounds better with hard rock or country.
You should definitely look into some of the Edifier options, also. They always seem to get really good reviews. There is no right answer, though. Different speakers work differently with different genres, so one may sound better with jazz while another sounds better with hard rock or country.
This post was edited on 12/28/17 at 10:04 am
Posted on 12/28/17 at 10:18 am to TigerRob82
No idea on those speakers - I had some powered speakers - Kanto Yumis which were pretty good, but nowhere near as good as my amp/passive speaker system I have now.
If you go the powered speaker route, of course you won't need an amplifier, but I will speak from experience - good amp/good passive speakers >>> powered speaker setup.
Kanto and Audio Engine are good brands of powered speakers - again, I have no experience to draw from on that pair of JBL.
Music direct has a Quad Vena amp open box for $599 right now - that is an excellent choice, though it will eat up 60% of your budget. You can get some really good bookshelf speakers for right around $400 or perhaps a little less, so that takes you to $1000. That would leave you with still needing a TT and preamp - and what you have been considering has you at around $500 so that would exceed your budget by 50% (it is really easy to sit at the keyboard and spend other peoples' money!!) but you'd have a pretty good setup. As someone else mentioned, don't forget your cables - at your budget I wouldn't break the bank on cables. Bluejean cables would be a good source for some value in this regard.
Now you could certainly go the route of starting with TT/preamp/powered speakers, get yourself up and running and either be satisfied with it, and if you like what you have going on, repurpose your powered speakers and acquire an amp and some passive speakers. As I mentioned above, quality amp + quality powered speakers is going to give you a big uptick in quality over a powered setup.
And I also had a Technics direct drive TT back in the '80s that I let slip away thinking vinyl was dead - sad deal as that's a workhorse table.
I'm editing this above post to clarify - the speaker that came up on that link for me was a JBL powered speaker.
If you go the powered speaker route, of course you won't need an amplifier, but I will speak from experience - good amp/good passive speakers >>> powered speaker setup.
Kanto and Audio Engine are good brands of powered speakers - again, I have no experience to draw from on that pair of JBL.
Music direct has a Quad Vena amp open box for $599 right now - that is an excellent choice, though it will eat up 60% of your budget. You can get some really good bookshelf speakers for right around $400 or perhaps a little less, so that takes you to $1000. That would leave you with still needing a TT and preamp - and what you have been considering has you at around $500 so that would exceed your budget by 50% (it is really easy to sit at the keyboard and spend other peoples' money!!) but you'd have a pretty good setup. As someone else mentioned, don't forget your cables - at your budget I wouldn't break the bank on cables. Bluejean cables would be a good source for some value in this regard.
Now you could certainly go the route of starting with TT/preamp/powered speakers, get yourself up and running and either be satisfied with it, and if you like what you have going on, repurpose your powered speakers and acquire an amp and some passive speakers. As I mentioned above, quality amp + quality powered speakers is going to give you a big uptick in quality over a powered setup.
And I also had a Technics direct drive TT back in the '80s that I let slip away thinking vinyl was dead - sad deal as that's a workhorse table.
I'm editing this above post to clarify - the speaker that came up on that link for me was a JBL powered speaker.
This post was edited on 12/28/17 at 10:28 am
Posted on 12/28/17 at 11:00 am to BigPapiDoesItAgain
I think I am leaning toward doing the powered speaker route, and after I get the upgrade bug throw those on my computer desk or bedroom and get some floor standing passives and an amp.
Posted on 12/28/17 at 11:54 am to TigerRob82
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I think I am leaning toward doing the powered speaker route, and after I get the upgrade bug throw those on my computer desk or bedroom and get some floor standing passives and an amp.
That's the route that I went. Frankly, until I send the oldest off to college, I don't really have room in the house for a dedicated stereo setup like that. When I do upgrade, I'll still have a fantastic pair of powered monitors that I can use somewhere else.
Posted on 12/28/17 at 2:01 pm to Jester
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I think I am leaning toward doing the powered speaker route,
Can vouch for Kanto, and hear good things about audio engine as to powered speakers. I think some of the Kanto and Audio Engine offerings also have a phono input - if you are trying to save a buck instead of buying a bargain preamp, you can make use of the phono input on the powered speaker and spend on a higher quality preamp if you get deep into this.
This post was edited on 12/28/17 at 2:06 pm
Posted on 12/28/17 at 2:20 pm to BigPapiDoesItAgain
So basically I need the Kanto YU6 and a TT and I could be good ?
Posted on 12/28/17 at 2:28 pm to TigerRob82
That is a 100% plug-n-play solution.
Posted on 12/28/17 at 2:55 pm to BigPapiDoesItAgain
I can still rock the Schitt Pre Amp though ? Just don't plug into the phono in ?
My inner child really wants to have a piece of Schitt.
My inner child really wants to have a piece of Schitt.
This post was edited on 12/28/17 at 2:59 pm
Posted on 12/28/17 at 5:37 pm to TigerRob82
The Kanto YU6 has a switch to bypass the preamp, so yes, you can use definitely use it with the Mani (or any other preamp of your choosing).
Keep us posted, I wanna hear how it goes.
Keep us posted, I wanna hear how it goes.
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