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re: Anyone else think Nirvana is vastly overrated?

Posted on 5/10/20 at 1:39 am to
Posted by Diseasefreeforall
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 5/10/20 at 1:39 am to
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Their music isn’t bad, it’s just simple. Simple isn’t bad either. In fact, at the time Nirvana released that music, it was a near revolutionary change of pace from everything else that was popular.

Simple is relative. Rush is a lot simpler than Dillinger Escape plan and is childlike compared to a meticulous composer like Brian Fernyhough.

It's not like Alice in Chains or Tool are paragons of musicianship compared to what's out there in terms of really rigorous study.

Anyway, I saw Nirvana three times back in the day and thought they were great. At the time I liked them better before Dave Grohl started playing with them but in hindsight he worked well as their drummer. Kurt wrote some catchy songs and they connected with the disaffected youth probably better than any band in history. Plus their influence made Metallica cut their hair.
Posted by monsterballads
Gulf of America
Member since Jun 2013
30810 posts
Posted on 5/10/20 at 11:16 am to
Madonna, Michael Jackson, prince, and Whitney Houston hated nirvana
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Posted by samson73103
Krypton
Member since Nov 2008
8775 posts
Posted on 5/10/20 at 11:35 am to
First album was pretty cutting edge for the time. But I have always thought AIC, STP, and Pearl Jam were better bands.
Posted by musick
the internet
Member since Dec 2008
26131 posts
Posted on 5/10/20 at 1:10 pm to
Nirvana single handily put hair metal in the coffin and for that I'll be forever grateful
Posted by Thunder
Western by God Vernon Parish
Member since Mar 2006
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Posted on 5/10/20 at 2:29 pm to
Nirvana recordings were really good, but just listen to them live ..... really really bad!
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
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Posted on 5/10/20 at 6:26 pm to
Grohl is insanely talented. Cobain was a loser.
Posted by SEClint
New Orleans, LA/Portland, OR
Member since Nov 2006
49086 posts
Posted on 5/10/20 at 11:16 pm to
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and one of their main hits is a Bowie cover.
which was never intended to be a hit..sooo..
Posted by Jester
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
34710 posts
Posted on 5/11/20 at 8:55 am to
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Anyone else think Nirvana is vastly overrated?


Yep. They were a good band, but are grossly overrated. Even Kurt Cobain thought they were. As a teenager during their heyday, they just never really grabbed my attention. They did start making more interesting music towards the end of Kurt's life
Posted by Jester
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
34710 posts
Posted on 5/11/20 at 8:58 am to
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Nirvana single handily put hair metal in the coffin and for that I'll be forever grateful


This is just absurdly false. Nirvana was one of several bands that did that. They're just the one that got pushed the hardest by the labels.
Posted by Jester
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
34710 posts
Posted on 5/11/20 at 9:23 am to
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Probably, but they were a 3 piece act so I give them credit there


Yes and no. Pat Smear rounded out their sound live.
Posted by Sayre
Felixville
Member since Nov 2011
5704 posts
Posted on 5/11/20 at 11:29 am to
Rick Beato expounded on the greatness of Nirvana better than I ever could.

Jump to 3:30 to get past the introductory bullshite.
Posted by SEClint
New Orleans, LA/Portland, OR
Member since Nov 2006
49086 posts
Posted on 5/11/20 at 8:51 pm to
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Pat Smear rounded out their sound live.


He was in the band for like 6 months, his guitar helped but they shouldn't have ever given him a microphone.
Posted by redfish99
B.R.
Member since Aug 2007
17704 posts
Posted on 5/12/20 at 1:53 pm to
Dey was
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 5/12/20 at 2:47 pm to
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people forget Nirvana was the band that burst out and knocked pop fluff like Michael Jackson & Whitney Houston off the top of the charts



People don't forget that, because that really didn't happen. Whitney Houston had 2 or 3 HUGE hits from The Bodyguard soundtrack around the height of Nirvana's popularity. Michael Jackson had the largest viewed Super Bowl halftime show at the time around that same time, along with his Dangerous album. It was the top selling album worldwide the same year Nevermind gained popularity. I think Nevermind was top selling in the US that same year though. At any rate, Whitney's and Jackson's own personal problems in the subsequent years had more to do with their stars fading, and Jackson had been at it nearly 20 years.

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They also were the dagger for most 80's hair bands.


I think Nirvana gets way too much credit for this as it was more the entire grunge scene. I was starting college in this era, and most of my friends had long moved on from hair bands by 91 when Nirvana gained popularity. Guns N Roses was the only band still in heavy rotation with us, but I never really considered them a hair band.
Posted by tigers1956
baton rouge
Member since Oct 2008
5167 posts
Posted on 5/12/20 at 3:47 pm to
Nirvana as a band was in the right place at the right time...music was dead in the late 80'and early 90's...they hit the scene at the right time with a punk radical sound...other groups followed their lead...kinda like what punk rock did too disco in the mid 70's....disco era was pure garbage
Posted by The Seaward
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2006
11473 posts
Posted on 5/12/20 at 4:06 pm to
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music was dead in the late 80'and early 90's.


Underground rock was alive and well at that time, including plenty of bands that heavily influenced Nirvana (Pixies, Sonic Youth, Meat Puppets, etc.). Cobain did after all joke that Smells Like Teens Spirit was basically his attempt at ripping off the Pixies.
Posted by Corso
Atlanta
Member since Feb 2020
11770 posts
Posted on 5/12/20 at 5:26 pm to
Butch Vig had as much to do with the Nirvana explosion as anybody in that band. Before he basically remodeled them in the studio they were just a generic sloppy punk rock band.
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