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Acoustic guitar pickup recs
Posted on 5/18/22 at 8:14 pm
Posted on 5/18/22 at 8:14 pm
Thinking about putting a pickup in my D18 but I mostly play acoustic so don't want anything super obtrusive.
Thinking about a K&K Pure Mini but was curious if anyone else had any other recommendations?
Or maybe I'll just buy another mic to play through, haven't decided yet.
Thinking about a K&K Pure Mini but was curious if anyone else had any other recommendations?
Or maybe I'll just buy another mic to play through, haven't decided yet.
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Posted on 5/18/22 at 8:49 pm to SidewalkTiger
I think the L.R. Baggs Anthem is the way to go.
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I wish I could get one for my Takamine, but it has the 2 piece saddle.
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I wish I could get one for my Takamine, but it has the 2 piece saddle.
This post was edited on 5/18/22 at 8:56 pm
Posted on 5/18/22 at 9:32 pm to SidewalkTiger
Misread lol
This post was edited on 5/18/22 at 9:33 pm
Posted on 5/19/22 at 10:50 am to gobuxgo5
LR Baggs Anthem or Anthem SL.
If you gig around, the Anthem is more on-the-fly versatile and subsequently more expensive. It's the system I have in my old Hummingbird.
If you are a home studio player, or if you play the same place all the time (church gig for example), the SL is the same piezo, same internal condenser, with a volume and more of a set-and-forget controls mentality.
For a more stripped down approach ... The Anthem's undersaddle piezo system alone is called the "Element." The Anthem's under-bridge internal condenser mike alone is called the "Lyric."
They make incredible soundhole pickups too if you only need temporary electric, or if you was a zero-invasive installation.
I cannot speak highly enough about everything LR Baggs makes. You can't go wrong with any product they offer.
If you gig around, the Anthem is more on-the-fly versatile and subsequently more expensive. It's the system I have in my old Hummingbird.
If you are a home studio player, or if you play the same place all the time (church gig for example), the SL is the same piezo, same internal condenser, with a volume and more of a set-and-forget controls mentality.
For a more stripped down approach ... The Anthem's undersaddle piezo system alone is called the "Element." The Anthem's under-bridge internal condenser mike alone is called the "Lyric."
They make incredible soundhole pickups too if you only need temporary electric, or if you was a zero-invasive installation.
I cannot speak highly enough about everything LR Baggs makes. You can't go wrong with any product they offer.
Posted on 5/19/22 at 10:55 am to TheFretShack
I wish I could get one for my Takamine, but it has the 2 piece saddle.
A skilled tech can link two piezos - one under each saddle - by soldering and isolating their hots and their braided shield/grounds.
Don't cut either piezo element short ... make a second hole at the other end of the saddle slot and feed the excess element through that hole back into the box.
If none of this makes sense to your tech of choice, he's not the guy for the job.
A skilled tech can link two piezos - one under each saddle - by soldering and isolating their hots and their braided shield/grounds.
Don't cut either piezo element short ... make a second hole at the other end of the saddle slot and feed the excess element through that hole back into the box.
If none of this makes sense to your tech of choice, he's not the guy for the job.
Posted on 5/19/22 at 11:38 am to TheFretShack
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A skilled tech can link two piezos - one under each saddle - by soldering and isolating their hots and their braided shield/grounds.
Don't cut either piezo element short ... make a second hole at the other end of the saddle slot and feed the excess element through that hole back into the box.
Yeah, I wish Baggs would just make a package for the specific application. Other than that, I'm just waiting for the right deal on a used Seagull Entourage autumn burst spruce top with factory electronics. That's really the ideal acoustic/electric for my purposes. I'll keep using the Takamine for writing.
This post was edited on 5/19/22 at 12:22 pm
Posted on 5/19/22 at 1:25 pm to TheFretShack
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LR Baggs Anthem
I think I have mentioned this before. In a thread about removing mine. I did not have it removed. I bought my Martin 000-28 on Reverb so I got the pickup I never asked for but wanted. Like a pool with a house, if you sell you aren't getting your money back for that modification.
Mine is an older model uses the plastic stick to control the "blend" between mic and pickup. All I know is it sounds great and I don't deserve it. It reminds me everytime I put my amp on the wrong setting and it squeals in disapproval at my buffoonery.
I can't say anything negative about it, and Fret likes it. I can say this to the OP though. It is not for you IF you want something you can remove. The saddle is shaved for the under saddle PUP, the mic is glued, there is a 9v battery bag in there (probably on the neck block), and the sound hole has been reamed larger for the components.
I will not hijack this thread... It leads me to a question about a particular acoustic amp. All of you please chime in if you have input.
Posted on 5/19/22 at 4:06 pm to LSU alum wannabe
I forgot to say good things about the K&K Pure Mini. It is an excellent system with merits outweighing its deficits.
Its pros are that it preserves the saddle and bridge assembly as it sits, so no tonal sacrifices there. And it doesn't use a battery. The guys who have high dollar acoustics, and/or who want to preserve their acoustic tone 100 percent, they gravitate towards the K&K.
The three piezos are glued to the soundboard under the bridge with cyanoacrylate glue (Super Glue). They are MUCH harder to remove than the Baggs system condenser. Granted, I've never been asked to remove a K&K, but I can assure you removal will destroy the unit.
For Element, Lyric and the Anthems, Baggs provides 3M adhesive foam precut to size, they don't use or recommend glue, and the provided Baggs 3M foam can be removed without residue left behind. LSUAW, if your system was actually glued, an overzealous tech or DIY'er was to blame.
To clarify, with EVERY internal acoustic electric system, you have to have an 1/4" output jack exit hole on the guitar. Unless you want cable dangling out of the soundhole that will get knotted up in your legs and trip you as it rips the cable from whatever transducer to which the cable is attached. As you likely deduce, I know this from personal experience.
Endpins are the typical spot for output jacks in that the hole already exists almost in perfect diameter, they can be reamed easily to fit, and they can be doweled and recut with minimal trace evidence should the system disappear.
Or you can solve the enlarged hole dilemma this way ... NoJak endpin in ebony or white plastic
Its pros are that it preserves the saddle and bridge assembly as it sits, so no tonal sacrifices there. And it doesn't use a battery. The guys who have high dollar acoustics, and/or who want to preserve their acoustic tone 100 percent, they gravitate towards the K&K.
The three piezos are glued to the soundboard under the bridge with cyanoacrylate glue (Super Glue). They are MUCH harder to remove than the Baggs system condenser. Granted, I've never been asked to remove a K&K, but I can assure you removal will destroy the unit.
For Element, Lyric and the Anthems, Baggs provides 3M adhesive foam precut to size, they don't use or recommend glue, and the provided Baggs 3M foam can be removed without residue left behind. LSUAW, if your system was actually glued, an overzealous tech or DIY'er was to blame.
To clarify, with EVERY internal acoustic electric system, you have to have an 1/4" output jack exit hole on the guitar. Unless you want cable dangling out of the soundhole that will get knotted up in your legs and trip you as it rips the cable from whatever transducer to which the cable is attached. As you likely deduce, I know this from personal experience.
Endpins are the typical spot for output jacks in that the hole already exists almost in perfect diameter, they can be reamed easily to fit, and they can be doweled and recut with minimal trace evidence should the system disappear.
Or you can solve the enlarged hole dilemma this way ... NoJak endpin in ebony or white plastic
Posted on 5/19/22 at 4:34 pm to TheFretShack
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For Element, Lyric and the Anthems, Baggs provides 3M adhesive foam precut to size, they don't use or recommend glue, and the provided Baggs 3M foam can be removed without residue left behind. LSUAW, if your system was actually glued, an overzealous tech or DIY'er was to blame.
I absolutely may be mis-speaking. The battery pouch on the neck block does have the easy to remove adhesive and you are correct. no residue left behind, but it did fail (took 6 years) and scared the hell out of me. That pouch and 9v battery made a nice racket that scared the hell out of me. Things tumbling inside the guitar and my "always worst case" attitude equal sheer panic.
The seller had the pickup installed by Martin. Fret, you can probably tell me what that entails, as I assume Martin does things the same way.
Posted on 5/19/22 at 6:43 pm to LSU alum wannabe
My comment about overzealous stands ... Martin likely glued it with the intent it never come off, whether accidentally or intentionally.
Why? The supplied 3M foam tape's tack is cementless enough that new Baggs systems packaging includes a second set of adhesive foam sticky pads ... for if and when the first batch fails. In the Gulf South, humidity is typically what kills the foam's stickiness.
Why? The supplied 3M foam tape's tack is cementless enough that new Baggs systems packaging includes a second set of adhesive foam sticky pads ... for if and when the first batch fails. In the Gulf South, humidity is typically what kills the foam's stickiness.
Posted on 5/19/22 at 9:30 pm to SidewalkTiger
I wish there were as many options available as there are today versus when I had piezo Hot Dots epoxied into my D18 bridge 30 years ago.
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