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Posted on 9/19/12 at 9:59 pm to CottonWasKing
I think part of what didn't translate for some folk is that sublime was primarily just a badass live band. Brad had an unreal ear for melody and the pipes of a cracker marvin gaye.
Babylon in costa rica
Slow Ride
Gimme my share
in the last one my man was about 19 or 20 and already a stone cold
Babylon in costa rica
Slow Ride
Gimme my share
in the last one my man was about 19 or 20 and already a stone cold
Posted on 9/19/12 at 10:08 pm to Chef Leppard
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I think part of what didn't translate for some folk is that sublime was primarily just a badass live band
Which is why I think Sublime would've enjoyed mass mainstream success for a time before fading away like every 90s band did. Then on occasion you would hear a new song of theirs on the radio for a few months, but meanwhile throughout the whole ordeal and their whole career they would've maintained a steady loyal hardcore following. Like I said earlier much like Pearl Jam, who enjoys an almost Jam Band like following. I think Sublime would've ventured even further into the quasi-jam band territory.
Their culture fits it. Their style fits it. Their music could easily fit it if given the chance and their dedication to their live performances damn sure fit.
Posted on 9/19/12 at 10:20 pm to CottonWasKing
The only thing I think could've killed it for them is if brad rode the rap thing out too far through the 90's. He obviously loved the early shite. If they ever ended up doing a run dmc/aerosmith or REM/krs one "radio" type song or two I would've literally fricking cried
But I agree fully on the jam aspect. Several of their songs like Pawn Shop they used to do live turned into 10 or 12 minute badass jams. He had the improv guitar and freestyle singing thing completely nailed down
But I agree fully on the jam aspect. Several of their songs like Pawn Shop they used to do live turned into 10 or 12 minute badass jams. He had the improv guitar and freestyle singing thing completely nailed down
Posted on 9/19/12 at 10:26 pm to Jester
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Jester CottonWasKing
well fwiw gentlemen I actually like ALOT of Sublime's music. I could probably sing and play the guitar parts of 40 Oz and self-titled by heart.
that doesn't mean I can't be objective about the way they'll be regarded by history and culture at large
Posted on 9/19/12 at 10:41 pm to Chef Leppard
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The only thing I think could've killed it for them is if brad rode the rap thing out too far through the 90's. He obviously loved the early shite. If they ever ended up doing a run dmc/aerosmith or REM/krs one "radio" type song or two I would've literally fricking cried
Sadly I could see that potentially happening as well.
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But I agree fully on the jam aspect. Several of their songs like Pawn Shop they used to do live turned into 10 or 12 minute badass jams. He had the improv guitar and freestyle singing thing completely nailed down
They would've been a festival staple for many years and probably would still be one if they wanted to be.
Its sad we only got, what 3 or 4 real years?, out of what could've been an amazing and potentially a greatly influential band
Posted on 9/20/12 at 3:36 am to bobbyray21
He would have gone on to write more mediocre ska/punk stoner music.
Posted on 9/20/12 at 7:26 am to Baloo
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I think they'd be viewed a lot like 311.
I strongly disagree with that statement.
311 was always always garbage. I disliked 311 when it was cool to like 311 because I trusted my ear even as a young man, and I know what garbage sounds like. It sounds like 311. Please pretty please never compare 311 and Sublime again. It will just break my heart into pieces.
Posted on 9/20/12 at 7:29 am to Kafka
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Kafka
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How many "If he didn't die" threads do you plan to start?
As many as I desire.
Posted on 9/20/12 at 7:32 am to bobbyray21
Even though they have a few decent songs and a bunch of fans I guess, 311 and slightly stoopid and other bands like that always have that trying entirely too hard vibe
Nobody can say that about Sublime. If they do, well,there opinion just sucks man
Nobody can say that about Sublime. If they do, well,there opinion just sucks man
Posted on 9/20/12 at 7:32 am to beezylsu
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Agree with both statements. They are in the 311 range, a band that should be left once you graduate high school.
I'm going to continue reading this thread, and if one more person compares Sublime to that abortion of a band known as 311 I swear on all things sacred than I'm going up to the roof and I'm gonna do a 12 story swan dive off that mother fricker towards certain sidewalk death.
Posted on 9/20/12 at 7:34 am to Chef Leppard
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Chef Leppard
You just saved my life.
This post was edited on 9/20/12 at 7:35 am
Posted on 9/20/12 at 7:52 am to Souljah
They were too different in style. Became Mexican Gangster music or wannabe Mexican Gangster music. I don't think they would have had staying power.
Never heard what age he died? "Rock and roll death age"? (27)
Never heard what age he died? "Rock and roll death age"? (27)
Posted on 9/20/12 at 7:53 am to JombieZombie
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He would have gone on to write more mediocre ska/punk stoner music.
Is this what mediocre ska/punk music sounds like?
Doin' Time
Funny how mediocre ska/punk got remixed by every rapper and their cousin. This one is the best:
Doin Time (Wyclef remix)
Is this what mediocre ska/punk music sounds like?
Caress Me Down
If so, why was it that my mid 50s dad heard me playing the above song in my room when I was in HS, walked upstairs, and said to me: "can you make me a tape with that song on it. That sounds really good."
And then the next day he said to me: "wow, that song was really filthy".
This post was edited on 9/20/12 at 7:57 am
Posted on 9/20/12 at 7:54 am to LSU alum wannabe
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They were too different in style. Became Mexican Gangster music or wannabe Mexican Gangster music. I don't think they would have had staying power.
Never heard what age he died? "Rock and roll death age"? (27)
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Posted on 9/20/12 at 8:00 am to TheDoc
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TheDoc
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/thread
Not when the hypo quite clearly stated that he kicked the habit. Work with the hypo, people.
Posted on 9/20/12 at 8:41 am to bobbyray21
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And then the next day he said to me: "wow, that song was really filthy".
A good friend of mine got that album and put it into a rental car during a family trip when he was about 14. He said listening to that song for the first time while his parents were in the car was an extremely uncomfortable moment in time.
Posted on 9/20/12 at 9:22 am to bobbyray21
Sorry, but clearly I'm not alone in comparing Sublime to 311. The parallels are pretty obvious -- both were hard rock acts heavily influenced by ska and raggae who appealed to the stoner crowd. I think Sublime is better than 311 as well, but it's not like they are worlds apart.
Sublime likely would've avoided the ska crash, as they weren't really a ska band and weren't lumped in with bands like the Bosstones. Sublime's career would've likely outlasted theirs. A shame about ska. I really liked ska. It was fun.
Sublime likely would've avoided the ska crash, as they weren't really a ska band and weren't lumped in with bands like the Bosstones. Sublime's career would've likely outlasted theirs. A shame about ska. I really liked ska. It was fun.
Posted on 9/20/12 at 12:00 pm to Baloo
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I think Sublime is better than 311 as well, but it's not like they are worlds apart.
More like galaxies apart.
If 311 were a college football team, they'd be Memphis. jmho.
Posted on 9/20/12 at 12:50 pm to bobbyray21
311 and Sublime toured together in 2011. Don't think it's that much of a stretch to mention the two in the same breath.
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