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25 years ago, 2 Live Crew were arrested for obscenity. Here’s the back story

Posted on 6/12/15 at 9:36 am
Posted by Green Chili Tiger
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Posted on 6/12/15 at 9:36 am


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Twenty-five years ago this week, members of the rap group 2 Live Crew were arrested. Not for DUIs or assault like today's musicians and celebrities, mind you, but for performing obscene songs at a concert.

It's hard to fathom something like this happening now. This is America! We have the 1st Amendment! But there was a time when lyrics were a political issue and pop was under fire from politicians, parents and the police. Rappers were getting arrested, and so were record store owners, and freedom of speech took a back seat to a court ruling about what was offensive.

But how did we even get to that point, and what has changed since then?

From Elvis's televised pelvic thrusts to Miley Cyrus riding a wrecking ball in nothing but boots, popular music has a history of pushing the boundaries of good taste. But in the mid-1980s, there was concerted pushback.

In 1985, the Parents Music Resource Center, or PMRC, released the Filthy Fifteen, a list of 15 songs about sex, masturbation, violence or the occult from artists like Prince, Motley Crue, AC/DC, Madonna and Cyndi Lauper. It was a reaction to the pop landscape of the time. MTV had made music more visual and visible than ever, and this rewarded artists for pushing boundaries and being controversial. The MTV Video Music Awards, where Madonna suggestively rolled around on stage while singing "Like a Virgin," debuted the previous fall, and bands like Slayer and Judas Priest were accused of "backmasking" -- or putting subliminal and sometimes satanic messages in their songs. Parents were worried.


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I remember when all this was going on.(I'm old).

I was the proud wearewr of a t-shirt with this on it:

This post was edited on 6/12/15 at 9:41 am
Posted by MudEngineer318
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Posted on 6/12/15 at 10:45 am to
Looks like no one really cares.
Posted by Green Chili Tiger
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Posted on 6/12/15 at 10:48 am to
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Looks like no one really cares.


I guess not.
Posted by Sayre
South Bend, Indiana
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 6/12/15 at 10:51 am to
The only tapes or CDs worth owning were the ones with a PMRC warning on them. You knew the shite was lame if it didn't piss of the PMRC somehow.
Posted by Green Chili Tiger
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Posted on 6/12/15 at 10:55 am to
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The only tapes or CDs worth owning were the ones with a PMRC warning on them. You knew the shite was lame if it didn't piss of the PMRC somehow.


For a while that was true and then the labels caught on and started throwing one "suggestive" song on cheesy pop albums so they would get the warning.
Posted by moon
USA
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 6/12/15 at 11:14 am to
Somebody say heeeeeeey we want some PUSSY!!!

Heeeeey We Want Some Pussaaay!

Posted by Brosef Stalin
Member since Dec 2011
42614 posts
Posted on 6/12/15 at 11:26 am to
2 Live Crew's album sales shot up right after this. They were one of the groups I can remember who fully embraced "negative" publicity.
Posted by Bunk Moreland
Member since Dec 2010
70161 posts
Posted on 6/12/15 at 1:12 pm to
Is this not America?
This is not China!
This is not Russia!
This is not the place where they brought down the wall, this is America!
We have the right to say what we want to say,
we have the right to do what we want to do,
and what I do in my house, you might not do in your house!
So what I do in my house is my business!
And the simple fact of it all is that we are BONDED by the First Amendment!
We have the freedom of EXPRESSION!
We have the freedom of CHOICE!
And you, Chinese, black, green, purple, Jew,
YOU have the right to listen to whoever you want to, and even the 2 Live Crew!
So all you right-wingers, left-wingers, bigots, Communists,
there IS a place for you in this world!
Because this is the land of the FREE, the home of the BRAVE!
And 2 Live is what we are!
This post was edited on 6/12/15 at 1:14 pm
Posted by SG_Geaux
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Member since Aug 2004
80831 posts
Posted on 6/12/15 at 1:54 pm to
I will never forget the Senate summoning Dee Snider for that PMRC hearing thinking they were bringing in some idiot that they could embarrass.
This post was edited on 6/12/15 at 1:55 pm
Posted by Green Chili Tiger
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Posted on 6/12/15 at 2:06 pm to
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I will never forget the Senate summoning Dee Snider for that PMRC hearing thinking they were bringing in some idiot that they could embarrass.


It was glorious
Posted by Baloo
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Member since Sep 2003
49645 posts
Posted on 6/12/15 at 2:26 pm to
I think Dennis Miller summed it up best (paraphrasing): "Yeah, yeah. 2 Live Crew are 1st Amendment heroes. Can we now admit its a really shitty song?"
Posted by Green Chili Tiger
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Posted on 6/12/15 at 2:37 pm to
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"Yeah, yeah. 2 Live Crew are 1st Amendment heroes. Can we now admit its a really shitty song?"


Which song we talking about? Because Pop That Pussy is pure poetry.
Posted by Bunk Moreland
Member since Dec 2010
70161 posts
Posted on 6/12/15 at 2:38 pm to
Gotta be Banned in the U.S.A.
Posted by Green Chili Tiger
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Posted on 6/12/15 at 2:41 pm to
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Gotta be Banned in the U.S.A.


Agreed
Posted by Baloo
Formerly MDGeaux
Member since Sep 2003
49645 posts
Posted on 6/12/15 at 2:52 pm to
it was Me So Horny, the centerpiece of the controversy at the time. It still is a shitty a song.
Posted by Sayre
South Bend, Indiana
Member since Nov 2011
5754 posts
Posted on 6/12/15 at 3:53 pm to
frick that, Me So Horny is a goddamn masterpiece.
Posted by genuineLSUtiger
Nashville
Member since Sep 2005
77214 posts
Posted on 6/12/15 at 7:21 pm to
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In 1985, the Parents Music Resource Center, or PMRC, released the Filthy Fifteen, a list of 15 songs about sex, masturbation, violence or the occult from artists like Prince, Motley Crue, AC/DC, Madonna and Cyndi Lauper. It was a reaction to the pop landscape of the time. MTV had made music more visual and visible than ever, and this rewarded artists for pushing boundaries and being controversial. The MTV Video Music Awards, where Madonna suggestively rolled around on stage while singing "Like a Virgin," debuted the previous fall, and bands like Slayer and Judas Priest were accused of "backmasking" -- or putting subliminal and sometimes satanic messages in their songs. Parents were worried.


I was about eighteen and it was much more oppressive than now. They were coming down hard on hellraising bands back then. Seems quaint now honestly.
Posted by Marco Esquandolas
Member since Jul 2013
11881 posts
Posted on 6/12/15 at 7:30 pm to
I just watched the entire DeeSnider video of the hearing...


Wow--Al Gore is just an arse.

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