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re: 1968 -Helter Skelter- The Beatles...was this the first metal song?
Posted on 3/15/23 at 8:58 pm to johnqpublic
Posted on 3/15/23 at 8:58 pm to johnqpublic
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In-A-Gadda-Da-Vida- Iron Butterfly, June 1968
You make some good points. I agree In-A-Gadda-Da-Vida is very "metalish" too. Great song! I'm not saying The Beatles "started" Heavy Metal with Helter Skelter. It's just impressive to me that they could make a song out of their genre that I think was definitely "metalish" before heavy metal was really big.
Posted on 3/15/23 at 9:49 pm to TexTigah81
“You Really Got Me” by The Kinks in 1964. While perhaps not technically heavy metal, it certainly paved the way.
This post was edited on 3/15/23 at 9:55 pm
Posted on 3/16/23 at 6:46 am to TexTigah81
I don’t really consider it metal, although I can see how that link is made, particularly to what is more commonly considered early metal like Black Sabbath or maybe even deep purple. It’s more just a loud song, but it helped to break that barrier so you do have to give it some credit in that regard.
To me, metal has a much more driving and prominent guitar behind it, especially in the lower register. Other classic characteristics would be a dropped low string, palm muting and the use of a more dissonant scale like harmonic minor which changes the last note but gives that unmistakably sinister feel.
White Album is so good. Really has something for everybody. Anytime someone says the Beatles suck or they don’t like them, I ask if they have ever listened to the White Album all the way through. You can almost bet that they have only heard their hits (which are skewed heavily toward their early stuff) and there is something on that album that would change their opinion of them entirely.
It’s crazy to me that it was during this time that they became “bored” and sick of eachother. Because from that point on they had some straight up masterpieces. It had become easy for them. But I guess half of being great is knowing where to stop.
To me, metal has a much more driving and prominent guitar behind it, especially in the lower register. Other classic characteristics would be a dropped low string, palm muting and the use of a more dissonant scale like harmonic minor which changes the last note but gives that unmistakably sinister feel.
White Album is so good. Really has something for everybody. Anytime someone says the Beatles suck or they don’t like them, I ask if they have ever listened to the White Album all the way through. You can almost bet that they have only heard their hits (which are skewed heavily toward their early stuff) and there is something on that album that would change their opinion of them entirely.
It’s crazy to me that it was during this time that they became “bored” and sick of eachother. Because from that point on they had some straight up masterpieces. It had become easy for them. But I guess half of being great is knowing where to stop.
This post was edited on 3/17/23 at 8:23 am
Posted on 3/16/23 at 7:42 am to TexTigah81
I'm going with Hendrix on Foxy Lady. 12/66 but not released until 11/67
Posted on 3/16/23 at 9:24 am to FtHuntTiger
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“You Really Got Me” by The Kinks in 1964.
This is probably the answer, but I would give a mention to Link Ray with Rumble in 1958. He even transitioned to hippie music in 1971 with: Ice People
Posted on 3/17/23 at 8:56 pm to DaleGribble
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Dear Prudence and Happiness Is A Warm Gun are my favorite songs on this one. I agree that it's their best album.
Those are both great songs and it is a fantastic album...but for me, side 2 of Abbey Road was their masterpiece.
Posted on 3/17/23 at 10:52 pm to midnight1961
Sun King's probably my favorite Beatles' song.
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