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re: Would you agree with this, regarding SOPA?
Posted on 12/30/11 at 4:55 pm to TheCobra
Posted on 12/30/11 at 4:55 pm to TheCobra
I quit bothering to sneak it in. Nobody really says anything to me anymore.
Then again I very rarely go to the movies. I might go see sherlock holmes with my brother because he is looking for an excuse to get away from his MIL and he offered to pay
I think the last movie I have seen in theaters was Transformers 3 in 3D and someone else paid for that too.
It's not even about piracy with me any more. I will just not see it or wait until it gets to redbox.
The only exception to that is a movie that I think will be a cinematic adventure such as when the Dark Knight Rises comes out.
Then again I very rarely go to the movies. I might go see sherlock holmes with my brother because he is looking for an excuse to get away from his MIL and he offered to pay
I think the last movie I have seen in theaters was Transformers 3 in 3D and someone else paid for that too.
It's not even about piracy with me any more. I will just not see it or wait until it gets to redbox.
The only exception to that is a movie that I think will be a cinematic adventure such as when the Dark Knight Rises comes out.
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Posted on 12/30/11 at 5:11 pm to Roaad
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Now the theater experience is too expensive for many. Now the key demographics (12-17 & 18-35) are not willing to take a chance.
Therefore more people have taken to illegally downloading middling films.
Pretty much agree. The range of films one could watch if you had to pay for them is limited in comparison to the unlimited potential of downloading.
Posted on 12/30/11 at 5:22 pm to Roaad
The presence of Hi-Def, Flat screen TVs and surround sound played a role as well. Theaters used to offer a unique viewing experience. Now, watching a film at home is normally a better experience.
Posted on 12/30/11 at 5:23 pm to Roaad
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Would you agree with this, regarding SOPA?
I feel Hollywood priced themselves into the current online piracy situation.
Definitely. But their situation is the result of them refusing to adapt to changing technology.
People would not pirate nearly as much if the products were made available easily and at a reasonable price.
In other words: No DRM, no hardware or OS restrictions.
Take for instance sports. Online pirating of sports streams is rampant. They are extremely common, easy to find, and available for free.
Why does ESPN insist on making ESPN3 only available to ISP's that will pay their extortion rate? Why doesn't ESPN either offer ESPN3 to everyone and support it with advertising, OR, offer access to single games for a small price. $30 is not reasonable. $3 is reasonable.
People would be happy to pay for the product if it were provided how they want it.
So yea, the media companies have done this to themselves, and American internet users are going to suffer for their shitty business practices if this SOPA shite gets passed.
This post was edited on 12/30/11 at 5:27 pm
Posted on 12/30/11 at 5:29 pm to WikiTiger
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WikiTiger
I agree with everything in your post.
Namely this
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Definitely. But their actions are the result of them refusing to adapt to changing technology.
Deserves extra highlighting. I feel that they have refused or failed to adapt and would rather blow everything up than permit a system they are not in absolute control of, to exist.
Posted on 12/31/11 at 12:32 am to WikiTiger
quote:Thanks largely to blackout rules being dumb, reactionary, and laughably unnecessary.
Take for instance sports. Online pirating of sports streams is rampant. They are extremely common, easy to find, and available for free.
Posted on 12/31/11 at 1:04 am to WikiTiger
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Why does ESPN insist on making ESPN3 only available to ISP's that will pay their extortion rate? Why doesn't ESPN either offer ESPN3 to everyone and support it with advertising, OR, offer access to single games for a small price. $30 is not reasonable. $3 is reasonable.
Yep, I can't use ESPN3 over here, so I obviously go with illegal streams.
Posted on 12/31/11 at 1:07 am to Roaad
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Thanks largely to blackout rules being dumb, reactionary, and laughably unnecessary.
The first time I heard about blackouts as a little kid, I was appalled.
I still think it's unnecessarily greedy.
Posted on 12/31/11 at 7:26 am to WikiTiger
quote:on the same note, it blows my fricking mind that NFL Sunday Ticket is still directv exclusive.
Why does ESPN insist on making ESPN3 only available to ISP's that will pay their extortion rate? Why doesn't ESPN either offer ESPN3 to everyone and support it with advertising, OR, offer access to single games for a small price. $30 is not reasonable. $3 is reasonable.
Posted on 12/31/11 at 10:56 am to baytiger
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on the same note, it blows my fricking mind that NFL Sunday Ticket is still directv exclusive.
yea, it's shite like that that just encourages people to say 'frick it' and pirate stuff.
It all just comes down to the internet being a major disruptive technology and the old dinosaurs refusing to adapt. Because adapting means they make less money for the same product. But that's the reality of the market.
But the really sad part is that instead of simply dying off, the media companies are using their wealth, power and influence to lobby the government to create laws to protect their industry, at the expense of freedom. This is completely antithetical to liberty.
I foresee a coming intellectual property revolution in this country. IP and the internet are simply incompatible. Our founders had it right when they protected IP for like 14 years and then after that it all entered the public domain. But as media companies grew in power and influence, somehow IP laws kept getting expanded.
If you are one that typically vilifies pirates, I urge you to go read up on IP laws, the importance of a healthy public domain to a culture, and finally the evil, disgusting, vile Mickey Mouse Act (guess who pushed for it?)
This post was edited on 12/31/11 at 11:01 am
Posted on 12/31/11 at 11:09 am to Hoodoo Man
quote:That's how the theater makes most of their money.
The $4 price for the smallest drink always bugged me.
It's like less liquid than a can of coke plus tons of ice.
What do they expect?
Speaking of the 18-35 male demographic, check out the most pirated movies of 2011.
LINK
1. Fast Five
2. The Hangover II
3. Thor
4. Source Code
Posted on 12/31/11 at 11:44 am to Roaad
The problem is that Congress is a bunch of 60+ year old dudes that have absolutely no idea what SOPA is or what it will do.
The entertainment industry is intentionally trying to destroy the internet and those old farts have no clue that this is SOPA's purpose.
The entertainment industry is intentionally trying to destroy the internet and those old farts have no clue that this is SOPA's purpose.
Posted on 12/31/11 at 11:54 am to Scoop
Oh, and one more thing....
The bastards had a record breaking year at the box office in 2010. $30 B. Up 9% from 2009.
Piracy is killing them, huh?
The bastards had a record breaking year at the box office in 2010. $30 B. Up 9% from 2009.
Piracy is killing them, huh?
Posted on 12/31/11 at 12:47 pm to Roaad
Posted on 12/31/11 at 1:11 pm to Scoop
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LINK
interesting video
I don't think the politicians, if they see it, will be influenced by this video though. They are all bought and paid for.
I do think that despite an extremely high level of corporatism rampant in our federal government, that the SCOTUS will ultimately strike SOPA down. It's just a shame that it will have to come to that.
Posted on 12/31/11 at 2:04 pm to WikiTiger
I never thought about the fact that the companies pushing SOPA were responsible for the widespread distribution of pirating software.
Kinda crazy.
Kinda crazy.
Posted on 12/31/11 at 2:26 pm to Scoop
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LINK
Damn normally I dismiss conspiracy theories, but that one is interesting. If that is accurate, the entertainment industries pulled one hell of a long con.
I guess it's not a crazy conspiracy theory if it is true.
Posted on 12/31/11 at 4:27 pm to Scoop
1/4th of the way through the video, and I want to kick a puppy.
I hate hollywood.
I hate hollywood.
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