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re: Worst Plot Twists

Posted on 8/8/11 at 11:52 am to
Posted by Scruffy
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Posted on 8/8/11 at 11:52 am to


Did you actually just break down the Wizard of Oz? There is all kinds of win in that post.
Posted by iwyLSUiwy
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Posted on 8/8/11 at 11:57 am to
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Because that was her sister.


So if my brother dies I get his shoes. Got it.
Posted by VOR
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Posted on 8/8/11 at 11:58 am to
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I liked it because it felt like a play.

And you've never been to a renaissance fair then?

And the clothes? If you were shut off to society, how do you expect your homemade clothes to look?

You guys need to think what you are saying.


Okay . . . out of an abundance of kindness, I'll give you the clothes.


But there is absolutely no reason people who had started that village would have spoken the way that they did. That's just silly.

Plus the whole thing is so implausible. I'd have to torture myself and watch it one more time in order to pick out all of the things that just didn't add up.
Posted by OMLandshark
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Posted on 8/8/11 at 11:59 am to
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So if my brother dies I get his shoes. Got it.


Is he married? Are there any other members of the family that would be in the will? Are those shoes actually worth alot of money? Something tells me Ruby Slippers would probably be worth quite a bit to where it would likely be handed down.
Posted by iwyLSUiwy
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Posted on 8/8/11 at 12:10 pm to


I'll give it to you, the ruby slippers were pretty ballin and were probably worth a pretty penny. Especially for the early 1900's.

But I mean what about the wicked witch of the east's husband? Where was he? Maybe she was engaged. I feel like he should have been after Brenda/Dorothy instead of making his freaking sister-in-law do the dirty work? What kind douche is he? I question his commitment to the marriage.
Posted by Pectus
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Posted on 8/8/11 at 12:20 pm to
Yet there are cultures that still live in the plains and forests of Africa with only a few anachronistic items. Maybe the language was a way for the older people to always remember that they are in character and needed to sell the sanctity of the village.


No one has said The Game with Douglas and Penn.

You could see it coming from a mile away and it's not really plausible.
Posted by Pectus
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Posted on 8/8/11 at 12:29 pm to
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The resident M Night defender.


You better believe it.

I am going to call out posters who do not know what they are talking about and don't know about film yet they feel they are in the right to critique his films. I'll also call out posters that have double standards.

I am objective enough to know when he makes a bad film.
Posted by Teddy Ruxpin
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Posted on 8/8/11 at 12:32 pm to
In the state of Louisiana, you would most certainly get your brother's shoes before his wife if he dies without a testament.

Order of succession is descendants of deceased, then parents/siblings, then spouse.

So ya, the witch of the West would get the shoes if there were no kids that the East had, and if their parents were dead. Her shoes, haha.
Posted by Scruffy
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Posted on 8/8/11 at 12:34 pm to
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I am going to call out posters who do not know what they are talking about and don't know about film yet they feel they are in the right to critique his films. I'll also call out posters that have double standards. I am objective enough to know when he makes a bad film.

Avatar: the Last Airbender was not only an insult to cinema, it was an insult to humanity. I think we can all agree on that one.
Posted by TDTGodfather
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Posted on 8/8/11 at 12:38 pm to
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I'd like to properly respond to this. But apparently I need to rematch Wizard of Oz

Mainly because I'm not remembering the good witch forcing Dorothy to wear the slippers. I thought she gave them to her and just sent her to Oz because that would get her home. If it was the witch of the East that died and owned the slippers, why would they be rightfully owned by the witch of the West? And even though she only does one truly evil act doesn't mean that she isn't evil. If you set me on fire and laugh while I'm burning you're going to be considered a pretty evil person right? She had wicked intentions the whole time and in the book did much more than what was in the movie. Its been some years but I need to rematch it because me memory of Glenda is kind of shoddy.

you busted someone in the pulp fiction thread for imdb trivia.

now u can bust someone for cracked.com they've had an extensive history of outting glenda as a horrible person.

but my main argument against hating glenda is that it's all a dream, right? uhhhhh....right???

none of the oz stuff actually happened. right??
This post was edited on 8/8/11 at 12:40 pm
Posted by Pectus
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Posted on 8/8/11 at 12:46 pm to
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Avatar: the Last Airbender was not only an insult to cinema, it was an insult to humanity. I think we can all agree on that one.


Right. And I'll gladly point that out, but people that say that Signs and Unbreakable have a plot twist can GTFO.
Posted by Zamoro10
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Posted on 8/8/11 at 12:47 pm to
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Yet there are cultures that still live in the plains and forests of Africa with only a few anachronistic items. Maybe the language was a way for the older people to always remember that they are in character and needed to sell the sanctity of the village.


Exactly. Smart people can sound awfully dumb when they disparage the village. They made a pact to completely bury their modern former life and cut off the outside world - it was a way so modern usage-memories didn't slip in and the kids ask questions. Seriously, if you're using modern words and slang and that mindset creeps in and some words get said and the kids start wondering, "why the hell are we living like this? And what the hell is MTV?"
Posted by BAMFulk24
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Posted on 8/8/11 at 12:48 pm to
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Source Code


shut your damn mouth
Posted by Pectus
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Posted on 8/8/11 at 12:52 pm to
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Wasn't even a plot twist.

They let him know piece by piece who he was and where he was. If people didn't realize that in the movie, then I can't help them.
Posted by saturday
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Posted on 8/8/11 at 12:53 pm to
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from dusk til dawn when everyone turned into vampires
Posted by VOR
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Posted on 8/8/11 at 1:01 pm to
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No one has said The Game with Douglas and Penn.

You could see it coming from a mile away and it's not really plausible.


I agree. The movie was sort of fun but the ending was absolute bullshite. I have to say I've always thought Deborah Kara Unger was hot, though.
Posted by iwyLSUiwy
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Posted on 8/8/11 at 1:38 pm to
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but my main argument against hating glenda is that it's all a dream, right? uhhhhh....right???

none of the oz stuff actually happened. right??


Thats what I was thinking. But that wasnt the twist to him.

EITHER WAY, the movie projected the mean neighbor/witch of the west as the villain. Even in the non dream world she was the person Dorothy was afraid of, so that transfered over to the dream world. Glenda really shouldnt even factor in because she wasnt even on the farm was she?
Posted by iwyLSUiwy
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Posted on 8/8/11 at 1:47 pm to
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You better believe it.

I am going to call out posters who do not know what they are talking about and don't know about film yet they feel they are in the right to critique his films. I'll also call out posters that have double standards.

I am objective enough to know when he makes a bad film.


But an earlier poster was just commenting on the awfulness of a movie. You mentioned that he wasnt on subject, which was correct, but that doesnt mean he was wrong. Just because they dont have plot twist doesnt mean that they werent terrible movies.

I think most would agree that The Sixth Sense and Unbreakable are his two best movies. Seems like I remember your favorite being Lady in the Water.

I personally feel that The Sixth Sense is extremely overrated but I see why people like it. Unbreakable I thought could have been really really good but fell short. But a case can be made for every other movie he has ever directed is terrible. The last two not even being a debate. That resume makes it impossible for me to defend him in any way. And honestly disminishes hiw decent work. I have no respect for that due to his lack of care for putting out a quality movie. Its a slap in the face to a movie fan.
Posted by Murray
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Posted on 8/8/11 at 1:50 pm to
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from dusk til dawn when everyone turned into vampires


winner winner chicken dinner
Posted by Muppet
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Posted on 8/8/11 at 1:59 pm to
In Baum's story, the Wicked Witch of the West is more clearly an antagonist. She's not related to the deceased witch of the East, she enjoys enslaving the various species of Oz just for the hell of it, and she is absolutely cruel to Dorothy and her companions. Not only does she send ferocious animals to kill them, but she tries to starve the cowardly lion to death. She even beats Toto with a fricking umbrella.

The 1939 movie had to really "lighten up" the story in order to make it not quite so Clockwork Orange, and it blurred the lines between good and evil alignments in the process.
This post was edited on 8/8/11 at 2:00 pm
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