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re: Why did the Turk think it was necessary kill Vito Corleone?
Posted on 7/11/21 at 10:35 am to RD Dawg
Posted on 7/11/21 at 10:35 am to RD Dawg
If he is not offering guarantees to Sallozzo and Barzini and stays completely neutral it is as if he declares war on Barzini. Vito does not like Barzini and Barzini probably feels the same. In order for the Turk's business to survive and be profitable all of the families have to be on board. Not having the most powerful on board is like having nothing.
If Vito is gone, you get Sonny and Sonny is reckless and given to impulse and of course, Fredo is a non entity. Michael is the hand up the skirt. Barzini even despite Michael's handiwork at Louis Restaurant with the cop and Sallozzo continues to think that time is on his side as the Don despite his recovery is weakened.
The hit on Vito is a terrible miscalculation by Barzini and the Turk. Looking at it closely, it is a Hail Mary . Ultimately drugs get in but Barzini and Tattaglia don't get to reap much of the benefit and the Corleone's wash their hands by leaving New York and embracing the casino business in Nevada and placing the burden of managing the street guys decline on Clemenza and Frank Pentangelli.
If Vito is gone, you get Sonny and Sonny is reckless and given to impulse and of course, Fredo is a non entity. Michael is the hand up the skirt. Barzini even despite Michael's handiwork at Louis Restaurant with the cop and Sallozzo continues to think that time is on his side as the Don despite his recovery is weakened.
The hit on Vito is a terrible miscalculation by Barzini and the Turk. Looking at it closely, it is a Hail Mary . Ultimately drugs get in but Barzini and Tattaglia don't get to reap much of the benefit and the Corleone's wash their hands by leaving New York and embracing the casino business in Nevada and placing the burden of managing the street guys decline on Clemenza and Frank Pentangelli.
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Posted on 7/11/21 at 12:32 pm to KiwiHead
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If he is not offering guarantees to Sallozzo and Barzini and stays completely neutral it is as if he declares war on Barzini
Those are some pretty harsh circumstances for declaring a mafia war especially against the most powerful family but perhaps by using Sollozzo as a proxy,Barzini thinks he's keeping his hands clean.
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The hit on Vito is a terrible miscalculation by Barzini and the Turk. Looking at it closely, it is a Hail Mary .
Is it? Doesn't he ultimately get the deal he wants with Vito? Obviously not so much when Michael takes over but I'm not sure anyone coulda foreseen what Michael was gonna turn in to.
There's no doubt it was highly risky especially with Sonny calling the shots after Vito is shot.
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Ultimately drugs get in but Barzini and Tattaglia don't get to reap much of the benefit
What is the timeline between Vito making the deal and his death?
Posted on 7/11/21 at 3:50 pm to RD Dawg
Yeah, Sallozzo is the sacrifice...Sallozzo knows this he tells Hagen as much. Barzini is playing puppetmaster with Tattaglia . Barzini though makes a critical mistake for himself in the meeting that clears the air by talking and praising Vito. But, like I said, it's a Hail Mary by Barzini using Tattaglia as proxy. Think of it in a football analogy. Tattaglia doing the hit on Vito gets both of them into the playoffs. The Corleones are already in, but then the Super Bowl comes along and Barzini did not scheme for a different QB in Michael.
Posted on 7/11/21 at 4:53 pm to KiwiHead
The best part is, is that in the book while Michael is absorbing power and buying his time by building his war chest to take out Barzini and Tattaglia once Vito dies (in the books its just those two bosses and Fabrizzio and payback for some Corleone bookmakers who were killed in a restaurant after the police shooting), Michael gets the family involved in narcotics importation 
without Vito knowing.
In the movie and book, Vito has Hagen look in to Sollozo's background and find prison terms in Italy and America. I think the main point of it all is that Vito wasn't going to go into such a risky business by being pushed in, he would have only done it had it been his decision. But a no to people like Barzini is "not the act of a friend" and if you're not a friend you're an enemy in that world. That is why that scene is so important.
ETA: Carlo and Tessio were killed as well.
without Vito knowing. In the movie and book, Vito has Hagen look in to Sollozo's background and find prison terms in Italy and America. I think the main point of it all is that Vito wasn't going to go into such a risky business by being pushed in, he would have only done it had it been his decision. But a no to people like Barzini is "not the act of a friend" and if you're not a friend you're an enemy in that world. That is why that scene is so important.
ETA: Carlo and Tessio were killed as well.
This post was edited on 7/11/21 at 4:54 pm
Posted on 7/11/21 at 5:45 pm to BorrisMart
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Michael gets the family involved in narcotics importation without Vito knowing
Thanks.I didnt know this. What is the timeline in the book? After the hit on Sollozzo?
Posted on 7/11/21 at 9:05 pm to RD Dawg
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Why did the Turk think it was necessary kill Vito Corleone?
Ah yes, one of the darker episodes of Scrubs
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