re: Where does Lion King rank on the top animation list?

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Hellfire and it isn't close.

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Havent heard be prepared in decades. Never heard hellfire. just listened to both. Hellfire is a way better song. Not calling be prepared bad by any means.

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It's the whole "isn't this the best ever" meme that saturates a lot of discussion boards. People craving confirmation for their taste in art and culture.

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“People claim to hunger for the truth, but they seldom like the taste once it’s served.”

-Jaime Lannister

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Sorry, I was roasting you for intentionally being an idiot. Maybe you weren't being as intentional as I thought...

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no you were being a Karen.

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That is a bit like comparing Shaq to Mikan, man

You have to judge movies from different era's by how they compared in their own.

Disney constantly revolutionizes animation, and cultural mores have altered what can be said, done, and shown in an animated movie.

I mean, think of comparing White Heat to Goodfellas.

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Dude, the Sword in the Stone has like 12 minutes worth of a plot and stretches out the time with almost entirely filler. The animation is pretty awful compared to their highs in the Golden Age. And what did that film revolutionize at all?

I’ve never heard anyone say it is one of the better Disney movies, nevertheless comparable to what many think to be an epic masterpiece. I personally find your argument to be a bit absurd. It’s like someone saying the Waterboy is a better comedy than The Life of Brian. That argument just doesn’t work when you put it on those terms.

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Havent heard be prepared in decades. Never heard hellfire. just listened to both. Hellfire is a way better song. Not calling be prepared bad by any means.

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Bingo. Be Prepared isn't bad. Hellfire is just better.

People forget, mostly because Hunchback is a bit under-appreciated, that this line appeared in A DISNEY MOVIE:

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If in God's plan
(Mea culpa)
He made the devil so much
Stronger than a man
(Mea maxima culpa)

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And this:

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Destroy Esmeralda
And let her taste the fires of hell
Or else let her be mine and mine alone

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Frollo is up there with Cruela as Disney's most interesting villain.


I'd put the trio of Bells of Notre Dame, Hellfire and Out There against the best of any movie honestly. Those three songs and sequences are some of the best Disney has done outside of Be Our Guest - which is the tops musical sequence in their library.

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But you said that anyone who didn't put in their top 10 was doing it to be edgy. You didn't say "Anyone who didn't put it in the top 10 for the Disney 90s era is doing that to be edgy."

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I don't put Mononoke or Sword in the Stone in my top 10.

He asked which of those are better, not which I liked more.

Tank Girl

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There’s no way you can defend to me that the Sword in the Stone is within sniffing distance of Princess Mononoke.

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Because you prefer it.

I prefer it as well. Not everyone likes it. I watched it in the Navy, and many of the guys thought it was fricking depressing. Never had anyone tell me that Sword in the Stone made them feel rotten about life.

It is not an objective measure, but you are demanding objectivity.

Everyone agreed Lion King was tops, top 3 at worst. . . and then it won that silly poll, so now it is trendy to hate it.

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Because you prefer it.

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No, because it’s objectively better. Princess Mononoke’s worst scene is better than The Sword and the Stone’s best scene. Maybe that sentence is an opinion, but what truly great scene is present? The washing dishes moment? What is so good about that film? This isn’t an opinion, it’s a fricking fact that one is better than the other. If someone said that the Sword and the Stone was debatably better than the Lion King, that poster would be rightfully mocked.

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I prefer it as well. Not everyone likes it. I watched it in the Navy, and many of the guys thought it was fricking depressing. Never had anyone tell me that Sword in the Stone made them feel rotten about life.

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Because Princess Mononoke is intentionally dark. It doesn’t give you the answers for the solution to man vs nature. It is designed to make you think and quite frankly be horrified on what both man and nature are capable of. Sword and the Stone they largely cashed it in and didn’t even attempt to make a great movie.

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Everyone agreed Lion King was tops, top 3 at worst. . . and then it won that silly poll, so now it is trendy to hate it.

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This is intellectual dishonesty. No, animation buffs said from the start that we knew that the Lion King would win. If we ever do that tournament again, then the Lion King has to be banned and the tournament should be renamed “The 2nd Greatest Animated Film of All Time Tournament”. We didn’t start hating it, nor do I hate the Lion King. But is it vastly overrated? Yes. Yes it is. People don’t look at it through objective lenses and simply look at it through their 6 year old nostalgia lenses.

Yes, it’s badass and a great movie, but there are much more profound, epic, and touching animated movies than the Lion King. It’s in the Top 20% of animated movies I’ve seen, but it’s not the masterpiece many on this board think it is.

One poster here thinks you’re a nerd for knowing what Studio Ghibli is and then has the balls to say that the Lion King is a definitive Top 5 animated film ever. Sorry, not being a snob, but if you’re unfamiliar Studio Ghibli, then you can’t judge animation at all. It’d be like me ranking action films and never seeing a Jeremy Bruckheimer film.

You're either trolling, or your opinion is shite.

Or both.