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re: When will they have another must see TV show?
Posted on 9/4/19 at 3:33 pm to Groundscrew85
Posted on 9/4/19 at 3:33 pm to Groundscrew85
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But are there any shows out there that can hold a candle to shows like The Wire, Breaking Bad, The sopranos. And if so please let me know so I can watch them immediately.
I really like Barry on HBO. It doesn't seem to be too well known though. I doubt it gets a must see nationwide following but I think it holds a candle. It has a sillier humor than the shows you mentioned but very well done.
Posted on 9/4/19 at 3:41 pm to Groundscrew85
I would say that The Boys was up there for me, but we're only a season in at this point so there's potential for it to go downhill. Dark is also a phenomenal show that I'd argue is nearly perfect
This post was edited on 9/4/19 at 3:43 pm
Posted on 9/4/19 at 3:43 pm to MorbidTheClown
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Yellowstone
That's a great show but...
[img]Shows that the whole country would look forward to and talk about for weeks[/img]
Nah. It's more of a "have you seen Yellowstone?" "No." "You need to watch it, it's really good."
The masses aren't talking about it. The fact that it's on Paramount doesnt help.
Posted on 9/4/19 at 4:15 pm to Groundscrew85
I think it's interesting to see how shows like you're referencing develop and find favor across the country.
IMO there has been a level of sophistication to all recent all-time type shows that attracted a fairly smart/nerdy audience which trickled down. Breaking Bad is a drug show, but it's a smart one that was a slow burn for a while and it took a while for people to get on board (myself included). Sopranos, GOT, Mad Men, West Wing, etc., all seemed to find favor in an influencer crowd first (media, the educated, heavy readers/film geeks, etc.) and that enthusiasm brought a lot of other people on board. Lost is probably the same, and the only other network show I can think of in recent memory that fits the must-see category.
It probably makes some sense for it to occur like that, as entertainment targeting a "network" audience is less likely to travel upwards (either for lack of quality or sheer elitism). You have some holdout shows that at one point may have generated a "nation watches the finale" type response, but most have outlived their prime (Grey's). I suppose This is Us might be the rare network show to fall in the category we're talking about.
GOT did it for the fantasy-ish genre, but I'm just not sure you can expect something like His Dark Materials or a normal comic-based show to garner the same nationwide captivation. I would say the same for Watchmen, but Lindelof's involvement could change that. Even if it isn't a country-watches-in-unison show, it'll probably generate a cult like Lost and Leftovers.
Mindhunter is a show that almost everyone in my aforementioned category obsesses about, although I think the subject matter is probably too extreme for it to get top status (although GOT...) and the binge component keeps Netflix stuff out of the category I think you're talking about.
IMO there has been a level of sophistication to all recent all-time type shows that attracted a fairly smart/nerdy audience which trickled down. Breaking Bad is a drug show, but it's a smart one that was a slow burn for a while and it took a while for people to get on board (myself included). Sopranos, GOT, Mad Men, West Wing, etc., all seemed to find favor in an influencer crowd first (media, the educated, heavy readers/film geeks, etc.) and that enthusiasm brought a lot of other people on board. Lost is probably the same, and the only other network show I can think of in recent memory that fits the must-see category.
It probably makes some sense for it to occur like that, as entertainment targeting a "network" audience is less likely to travel upwards (either for lack of quality or sheer elitism). You have some holdout shows that at one point may have generated a "nation watches the finale" type response, but most have outlived their prime (Grey's). I suppose This is Us might be the rare network show to fall in the category we're talking about.
GOT did it for the fantasy-ish genre, but I'm just not sure you can expect something like His Dark Materials or a normal comic-based show to garner the same nationwide captivation. I would say the same for Watchmen, but Lindelof's involvement could change that. Even if it isn't a country-watches-in-unison show, it'll probably generate a cult like Lost and Leftovers.
Mindhunter is a show that almost everyone in my aforementioned category obsesses about, although I think the subject matter is probably too extreme for it to get top status (although GOT...) and the binge component keeps Netflix stuff out of the category I think you're talking about.
Posted on 9/4/19 at 4:20 pm to Groundscrew85
I think Game of Thrones was the end of that era as far as America watching that must see show all in unison, and then talking about it the next day. I mean we have had amazing quality TV, but Sopranos, Breaking Bad, & Game of Thrones are the only ones that became global phenomenon's that everyone watched. No matter how great of a quality a show is, I don't know if we'll ever see one rise to that level again. And if it does happen, the industry has changed to streaming, so the nation watching together, and waiting for next weeks episode isn't likelt going forward.
Posted on 9/4/19 at 4:24 pm to Groundscrew85
I've read several pieces recently about network executives all searching for the next Game of Thrones.
Posted on 9/4/19 at 4:36 pm to RabidTiger
Westworld had the potential story to be that show if it wouldn’t be so fricking confusing to the casual viewer and not so all over the place at times.
Posted on 9/4/19 at 5:21 pm to GCTiger11
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Westworld had the potential story to be that show if it wouldn’t be so fricking confusing to the casual viewer and not so all over the place at times.
I agree. I think a futuristic/sci-fi/techy show that has very "normal" storylines embedded in it is a winner. It is unique and novel but everyone can relate to it. It's not too dorky but it has a lot of depth. I think they likely missed a huge opportunity.
Posted on 9/4/19 at 8:27 pm to Uhtred
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Part of the reasons those shows were so big is they built up anticipation each week. You had to wait an entire week before seeing the next episode. In between episodes, you'd have these online communities (like this one) dissecting previous episodes and forecasting what was to come.
Most of the best series today are on streaming platforms and you can binge-watch the entire thing. It cuts out the community aspect of it all. The shows are still fantastic, but they won't generate the same type of buzz.
No water cooler talk at work because everyone watches at a different pace. Sometimes the people we live with aren't watching it together, or on the same pace.
Binging isn't all it's cracked up to be.
Posted on 9/4/19 at 11:28 pm to Groundscrew85
Chernobyl
Mindhunter
Coming soon - Mandalorian
Mindhunter
Coming soon - Mandalorian
Posted on 9/5/19 at 7:12 am to Pettifogger
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Westworld had the potential story to be that show if it wouldn’t be so fricking confusing to the casual viewer and not so all over the place at times.
I get that. The first season imo was damn near perfect television. Yes, the second season was confusing as shite, but I would just watch a recap video/listen to a westworld podcast the next day to get the timeline in place... if you do that it'll make a lot more sense, even though i know people just want to watch a show and not do all this extra jazz
Posted on 9/13/19 at 6:47 pm to JinFL
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Chernobyl
Short but fantastic series
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