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re: Westworld S01E05 - "Contrapasso" Thread
Posted on 10/30/16 at 9:08 pm to Pitch To Johnny
Posted on 10/30/16 at 9:08 pm to Pitch To Johnny
She has a nice butt
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Posted on 10/30/16 at 9:10 pm to Cosmo
I feel so.......small
Posted on 10/30/16 at 9:11 pm to prplhze2000
WTF I am so confused.
So there are two different timelines??
So there are two different timelines??
Posted on 10/30/16 at 9:12 pm to Cosmo
So are they looking for Arnold? He's at he end of the maze?
We found out that the MiB helped save the park when Arnold tried to destroy it 35 years ago. And William still hasn't met tMiB, meaning I'm sure people are going to hang on to the two timeline theory.
We found out that the MiB helped save the park when Arnold tried to destroy it 35 years ago. And William still hasn't met tMiB, meaning I'm sure people are going to hang on to the two timeline theory.
This post was edited on 10/30/16 at 9:13 pm
Posted on 10/30/16 at 9:13 pm to Rox
Many people think so but there's evidence to disprove.
Posted on 10/30/16 at 9:22 pm to ell_13
No wonder he gets what he wants
Posted on 10/30/16 at 9:24 pm to PowerTool
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Any idea what that was in the technician's locker?
Looked like a dead bird.
Posted on 10/30/16 at 9:48 pm to prplhze2000
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Yup. I'm starting to get a little tired of the confusion.
i think there are 3 timelines going on
delores, mcpoyle, and his BIL
thandie newton
MIB
i need to go rewatch 2-4 again
Posted on 10/30/16 at 9:51 pm to Rox
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So there are two different timelines??
at least. maybe more than 2
the scene on the train pretty much establishes that mcpoyle is MIB in the past and its probably the first time delores is "awakening". i'd estimate it's 34 or so years in the past from the "present"
the whole "you can call me lawrence" thing is the reason i say that (plus the talk by MIB before he kills him and hangs him up by the tree). they're HEAVILY implying this with the writing
this episode didn't have any of the "control room" people either, which i think was on purpose
Posted on 10/30/16 at 9:51 pm to Puck82
yeah that bird he reprograms is the thing he petted in the locker (if you hadn't gotten that far yet)
Posted on 10/30/16 at 9:52 pm to SlowFlowPro
A lot of people are going to think we are watching the park about to fall apart from 35 years ago. William was this "weak" employee and this helped turn him into a better businessman. The question is that if that's the case, what is happening now that's so important. William (MiB) looking for the end of this maze? Really? And which timeline includes the hosts revolting/becoming self aware. And then there's the piece about someone reprogramming the hosts to leave the park.
Posted on 10/30/16 at 10:00 pm to SlowFlowPro
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i think there are 3 timelines going on
delores, mcpoyle, and his BIL
thandie newton
MIB
Dolores told maeve the quote that her dad told her. This quote triggered her and Maeve onto their current awakenings.
We know that Ford has interacted with Dolores on her current loop (therefore on Williams' time frame) and MiB. So, they are all on the same time frame.
There is still no evidence for multiple time frames.
Posted on 10/30/16 at 10:01 pm to ell_13
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A lot of people are going to think we are watching the park about to fall apart from 35 years ago.
yeah the thing that stood out to me the most was the talk by the BIL about how the park was losing money and it was a partnership and the partner (arnold) died, etc. they were thinking of buying it, etc. sounds like their company buys it and william "grows" or whatever and ends up a big bossman there. he's the "member of the board" that is referenced in ep4 (partnerships don't have boards)
that convo is why i'm now in the "multiple timelines and william is MIB" camp
it also fits with the reference to the issues from 30+ years ago from episode one
hector's rampage has happened twice on the show. the first time in the show was the "present" (remember the "big speech" that was ruined by the yokle shooting him?).
i dunno i'm thinking about it and if that was the "present" timeline, it would be the MIB timeline...and he talked to hector and his gang in episode 4...then the next hector showdown they showed was the thandie newton awakening one...i dunno this is really confusing. it can't be both (which is why i think there may be 3)
i re-watched episode 1. i need to do 2-4 and pay attention
Posted on 10/30/16 at 10:03 pm to guedeaux
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There is still no evidence for multiple time frames.
it was heavily, and i mean HEAVILY implied in this episode
Posted on 10/30/16 at 10:06 pm to SlowFlowPro
The problem I have slow is that Ford says that only he and Delores are still around from all that mess 35 years ago. There are too many characters that have interacted with both William and MiB for that to be the case.
Posted on 10/30/16 at 10:09 pm to ell_13
good point. i think they are going to JJ abrams this whole thing
but i just thought about it and Hector has had 2 shootouts. there has to be 2 timelines for that alone
but i just thought about it and Hector has had 2 shootouts. there has to be 2 timelines for that alone
Posted on 10/30/16 at 10:10 pm to ell_13
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The problem I have slow is that Ford says that only he and Delores are still around from all that mess 35 years ago. There are too many characters that have interacted with both William and MiB for that to be the case.
And the way Williams' BiL was talking, the park has been open for a while, Arnold died before the park opened and that sent the park into "a free fall." The park is clearly open when William is there. Pretty sure the BiL is the one stealing data from the park.
Also, MiB says that the original ones were robots while the newer hosts are flesh. So, wouldn't Dolores have to be more machine than flesh?
This post was edited on 10/30/16 at 10:13 pm
Posted on 10/30/16 at 10:13 pm to guedeaux
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And the way Williams' BiL was talking, the park has been open for a while,
think about the host "Bill" and how shitty he is. even if they were in the past, the park would still have been open a while. but an issue with THAT is how did Arnold get into Delores, who is vastly superior of a model to Bill, if he wasn't around for the creation of her level of hosts?
i think they may be writing themselves into a bunch of plot holes (or as i said, JJ Abrams'ing it)
Posted on 10/30/16 at 10:13 pm to SlowFlowPro
The shootouts take place at what frequency? Weekly? Do we know? How many days has William been in the park? The MiB?
We don't know these things to know whether or not two shootouts took place in a single timeline
We don't know these things to know whether or not two shootouts took place in a single timeline
Posted on 10/30/16 at 10:14 pm to SlowFlowPro
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but i just thought about it and Hector has had 2 shootouts. there has to be 2 timelines for that alone
What? He is a host, so we have seen two of his loops. His story takes a lot more to develop back to Sweetwater, so it doesn't happen every day, thus we have only seem it twixe
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