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I remember George Lucas saying that he personally rewrote the script. Anyway, Kasdan's cowriter on empire died and it's pretty clear that Lucas was much more involved in this one. During empire, he was on the set for one day and he stayed out of Kershner's way. Lucas was on set and around for almost every part of this produciton. He also fired Gary Kurtz who helped channel his ideas. Kurtz is for all intents and purposes the co-creator of star wars. Without him, the first movie is an epic failure and nobody even knows who the frick george lucas is...

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Why is Boba Fett in the palace? I thought he was a bounty hunter who would be out picking up contracts and/or capturing/killing targets, but instead he seems to be acting as Jabba's own bodygaurd. fricking lame. To top it off they take the mystique off of the most mysterious, bad arse bounty hunter in the galaxy by having him die as gag. I think the sarlaac pit even burps...ugh

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correct me if i'm wrong but isn't boba fett trying to collect a bounty from jabba? doesn't he say in "empire": "He's no good to me dead" to Vader and Vader says he will compensate BF if solo doesn't survive the carbonite freezing?

basically i think he's "hanging around" b/c jabba won't pay him until after he's unfrozen.

but you're totally right on his death. Fett had a terrible death that was very hacky.

You mean the geniuses who thought up "scruffy nerf herder" were usurped by the guy who thought all of this shite up to begin with? Say it isn't so, man!

And then she said "I'd rather kiss a wookie" and he was all "I can arrange that."

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The music sucks

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Disagree.

LINK

00:00-2:00 is some of the best work Williams did on the original trilogy.

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actually i enjoyed this movie every time as a kid, now it just kind of sucks. I haven't seen it in 10 years until last night. I found myself wanting to shut it off or skip to the throne room scenes.

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Seriously - the problem is the comparison with A New Hope and Empire.

To use another analogy I'm fond of - Jedi is practically Citizen Kane, compared to Godfather III.

Those 2 series, in particular, are the Gold Stadanrds for great first 2 chapters, then a dramatic let down.

With Rocky - the dip to III was much more gentle (and I'd heard a number of people who really liked III and even more who liked IV).

With Matrix, it's unwatchable after the first film. Back to the Future - the second and third installments were about equal and both pretty good. With Indy, once again, the 2nd chapter probably has a dip (many disagree with that), but the third (and thankfully final chapter) Indy film was excellent.

Droids
Why in gods name does han, leia and luke bring r2 and c3po to endor. In star wars they're unintentionally along for the ride and they serve a purpose. In empire, once again they're possessions that are packed up when escaping hoth. Kershner finds some pretty good ways to make them accessible to us and humanize them. He makes them useful but not in a cheap way. But in Jedi, they're just there, doing stupid things and the plot seems as if it was written to accomodate them.

Vader Doesn't Kill Anyone
So at this point in 1983, vader is really popular. Lucas realizing this, has to make him a good guy because everyone who is popular must be a babyface. It's almost like professional wrestling. After two movies of being an awful, murderous henchman, he now is transformed into some sort of tragedy and the emperor takes his place as the purely evil character. Why cant they both just be two really evil dudes? To make his redemption more believable Lucas doesn't have him kill or hurt anyone (other than the emperor) You just know watching the opening scene that moff jerjerkjdlsdfjlk is hurting for a choking. I wasn't really surprised to find out that a scene of vader choking moff jerjerklsdj; was cut from the movie. At least they delayed introducing him as the chosen one and allowing the trilogy to end on a somewhat respectable note.

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maybe it's overshadowed by numerous numbers like this

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Yeah...that wasn't one of his best compositions. I don't know why so many so-called "purists" prefer the original ending composition to the one in the special edition.

Victory/End Titles

I don't care bout none of that. Speeder bikes bitches.

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I also despise the fact that they showed Vader's burnt up face in the end.

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I didn't know how to feel about this. As a kid you cannot wait and even then it's disappointing. I don't know what to think now