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re: The World Wars on History

Posted on 5/27/14 at 8:11 pm to
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
65147 posts
Posted on 5/27/14 at 8:11 pm to
I am almost done with episode one and I am not a big fan. It glosses over the Russian Revolution, makes it appear it happens in 1915-16 instead of March (and again in October) of 1917. There is a lot of historical disagreement about when Hitler shaved his mustache but most historians I have read say he shaved it in 1919, not 1914. It seems History was just going for dramatic effect with that scene anyway.

Also I didn't like how History made it seem the United States went to war solely over the discovery of the Zimmerman note. When that telegram became public, the United States was already all but certain heading into war because the German navy had gone back to unrestricted submarine warfare and were sinking our merchant ships, killing hundreds of Americans in the process. We had warned them in 1915 that if they sank another American ship there would be war. That's why the Germans sent the telegram to Mexico in the first place. They knew that by restarting USW they would bringing America into the war against them. They hoped that Mexico would delay U.S. forces long enough for them to achieve final victory over England and France.
This post was edited on 5/27/14 at 8:14 pm
Posted by Diddles
LA
Member since Apr 2013
6981 posts
Posted on 5/27/14 at 8:13 pm to
Brinkley is a turd
Posted by geauxtigers87
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2011
25313 posts
Posted on 5/27/14 at 8:28 pm to
Such a douche. Wannabe ambrose
Posted by TejasHorn
High Plains Driftin'
Member since Mar 2007
11037 posts
Posted on 5/27/14 at 8:39 pm to
Hard to cover "30 years of war" in a short mini-series but its pretty well produced and good commentary from Powell, McChrytstal et al.

All docs pale in comparison to World at War but it was 25 episodes or so.
Posted by VermilionTiger
Member since Dec 2012
37632 posts
Posted on 5/27/14 at 8:42 pm to
I was looking to find out more about the Russian revolution..but oh well.
European and Russian history is an intriguing topic to me
Posted by LSUlefty
Youngsville, LA
Member since Dec 2007
26537 posts
Posted on 5/27/14 at 8:50 pm to
2 World Wars, The Depression, Rise of Hitler and Germany is a lot to cram into 3 episodes. But they've done a nice job so far.
Posted by dr smartass phd
RIP 8/19
Member since Sep 2004
20387 posts
Posted on 5/27/14 at 8:58 pm to
quote:

All docs pale in comparison to World at War but it was 25 episodes or so


That would be 26 and an additional 8 of unused footage and interviews.
Posted by BlackenedOut
The Big Sleazy
Member since Feb 2011
5827 posts
Posted on 5/27/14 at 9:08 pm to
The analogy is this. Imagine you grew up on MTV when they actually played music videos and introduced you to new bands. Now imagine MTV right now going back for 3 nights in a row and showing music videos. Yes you might quibble about the videos they select but you'd probably be happy they were at least playing music videos again.
Posted by Diddles
LA
Member since Apr 2013
6981 posts
Posted on 5/27/14 at 9:08 pm to
Did they get Artie Lange to play Stalin?
Posted by jimbeam
University of LSU
Member since Oct 2011
75703 posts
Posted on 5/27/14 at 9:26 pm to
So many flaws in the battle scenes

Posted by geauxtigers87
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2011
25313 posts
Posted on 5/27/14 at 9:30 pm to
That "german" tank looked like a russian t72 or something
This post was edited on 5/27/14 at 9:31 pm
Posted by jimbeam
University of LSU
Member since Oct 2011
75703 posts
Posted on 5/27/14 at 9:42 pm to
Pretty sure they just showed a p51 in the Battle of Britain

And I think they showed GIs during the Poland invasion


Posted by geauxtigers87
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2011
25313 posts
Posted on 5/27/14 at 9:45 pm to
B17 ballturret and b17 footage as german bomber attacking London. The Germans didn't even have a 4 engine bomber.
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
65147 posts
Posted on 5/27/14 at 9:49 pm to
It's like this shite was just hastily thrown together as far as the archived footage is concerned.
Posted by jimbeam
University of LSU
Member since Oct 2011
75703 posts
Posted on 5/27/14 at 10:05 pm to
It's pretty bad

I am disappoint


Guess those PawnStars reruns takeupall their time
Posted by pistolsfiring11
Member since Aug 2012
125 posts
Posted on 5/27/14 at 10:14 pm to
I thought last nights episode was pretty good minus a few problems with the timeline. Tonight's episode, however, was significantly worse. The timeline was even more jumbled and the archival footage was a complete mess. Showing B-17s when talking about the Luftwaffe's bombing of London. And what was a fricking T-55 doing in one of the filmed battle scenes? Was there no editor for this series?
Posted by Tackle74
Columbia, MO
Member since Mar 2012
5264 posts
Posted on 5/27/14 at 10:24 pm to
yeah I want to like this show and am watching but the use of wrong equipment like B17's, T55 tanks and heck last night the German soldiers were using Mk I Enfields when shooting at Hitler. I know what they are trying to do but things like that are a turn off. Also they have totally shortchanged the Japanese atrocities in China. I mean seriously if Hitler would have slaughtered 250,000 in one city in Europe you think they would have mentioned it aka Nanking. Also not sure on how they picked who to follow. Yamamoto would have been a good one to follow.
Posted by JStanDawgFan
Evans, Ga
Member since Jul 2012
3987 posts
Posted on 5/27/14 at 10:25 pm to
Has anyone else felt like Mussolini and his exploits have been relegated to meer footnotes of the overall war. Granted, as stated before, its a lot of material to cram into 6 hours; but still he basically goes unmentioned for hours. Also, the second episode just shows Stalin in power in Russia with no explanation of how and why. Lenin apparently just disappeared.
Posted by LSUlefty
Youngsville, LA
Member since Dec 2007
26537 posts
Posted on 5/27/14 at 10:30 pm to
They haven't mentioned Marshall, Ike, Nimitz, or even the Desert Fox yet.
Posted by Alahunter
Member since Jan 2008
90739 posts
Posted on 5/27/14 at 10:33 pm to
A few of my military surplus and relic groups on facebook are fit to be tied because germans were shooting british guns and several other rifle discrepancies in the battle scenes.
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