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re: The Wheel of Time Season three (Spoilers)
Posted on 4/3/25 at 10:41 pm to tigger1
Posted on 4/3/25 at 10:41 pm to tigger1
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Brandon who finished the Wheel of Time books, is a very good author and his books do keep you interested in the story line. I do wonder if those last books in the wheel of time are like his normal works. He has let out he is not against doing more of the Wheel of Time books.
He did great. Jordan got a little too deep in the weeds and Sanderson was able to clean it up and finish strong.
What would you recommend for a good Sanderson series to start with?
Posted on 4/3/25 at 10:45 pm to wadewilson
quote:No it wasnt
So that is actually a book thing.
Posted on 4/3/25 at 11:27 pm to AuburnTigers
Yes it was. Read the books again. Siuan and Moraine were banging each other as accepted.
Rug munchers, Bambi lesbians, bean flickers, kitty punchers, muff divers, pillow princesses.
Specifically, New Spring, chapter 17.
Rug munchers, Bambi lesbians, bean flickers, kitty punchers, muff divers, pillow princesses.
Specifically, New Spring, chapter 17.
Posted on 4/4/25 at 1:34 am to wadewilson
Mistborn
A number of people want Jenna Ortega from Wednesday to play the lead if made into series. Read the 3-book arch and you will see why that would be a huge miscast.
I have read all of Brandon books, he does keep the pace of the story going strong in most of his works.
A number of people want Jenna Ortega from Wednesday to play the lead if made into series. Read the 3-book arch and you will see why that would be a huge miscast.
I have read all of Brandon books, he does keep the pace of the story going strong in most of his works.
Posted on 4/4/25 at 2:07 am to AuburnTigers
Bi-sexual or straight up Lesbian no men needed? Cause if its the former, could work, if it is the latter, they fricked it up.
Posted on 4/4/25 at 2:12 am to WicKed WayZ
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Might not be “wheel of time” as fans imagined it
More like not might be wheel of time as was written, but the directors imagine a new way is hitting its stride.
Fixed it for you.
Posted on 4/4/25 at 9:23 am to wadewilson
quote:they werent. That was your own perverse interpretation.
Yes it was. Read the books again. Siuan and Moraine were banging each other as accepted.
Rug munchers, Bambi lesbians, bean flickers, kitty punchers, muff divers, pillow princesses.
Specifically, New Spring, chapter 17.
Posted on 4/4/25 at 10:04 am to AuburnTigers
Ok.
Weird hill to die on, but ok.
You do you, princess.
Weird hill to die on, but ok.
You do you, princess.
Posted on 4/4/25 at 10:14 am to AuburnTigers
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they werent. That was your own perverse interpretation.
Siuan and Moraine were 100% pillow friends aka lovers in the White Tower. Its not even a question.
However the way RJ wrote these types of relationships was obviously subtle because of the time. But it is a fact. They were described as pillow friends more than once in New Spring, get into bed with each other, caress each other, and flat out kiss each other in that prequel. RJ is on record defining exactly what pillow friends means (lovers).
However both went on to have relationships with men later.
The amount of gay and non-straight couples in the show, while many are alluded to in the books, borders on very amusing because its clearly a reflection of Rafe Judkins sexuality
This post was edited on 4/4/25 at 10:21 am
Posted on 4/4/25 at 10:23 am to wadewilson
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So that is actually a book thing.
They were not "lesbians", they are clearly bisexual and had a same sex relationship while in the tower, but it was over for 20 years and they both had relationships with men as well.
Posted on 4/4/25 at 11:23 am to Fun Bunch
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they are clearly bisexual and had a same sex relationship while in the tower,
Not according to OP
Posted on 4/4/25 at 11:31 am to wadewilson
Yeah I know he's just wrong. There are numerous quotes throughout New Spring and other books, and RJ's explicit confirmation as to exactly what a pillow friend is.
I mean Moiraine literally says in New Spring that they caressed and kissed each other.
What is also true is that in the books they essentially never saw each other again and went on to have loving relationships with men.
I mean Moiraine literally says in New Spring that they caressed and kissed each other.
What is also true is that in the books they essentially never saw each other again and went on to have loving relationships with men.
Posted on 4/4/25 at 1:15 pm to Fun Bunch
Pillow friends were friends who, while Novices though sometimes also as Accepted, in the White tower at a very young age, when they were sequestered away from family and life-long contacts, and who had no interaction with boys their own age and probably only warders if any males at all, developed romantic and at least minimally-physical relationships with best friends struggling through the same difficult experience.
It is mentioned several times in the novels that most AS abandoned those proclivities once they became Accepted and obtained greater access to the world, and most regarded that aspect of their history as childish, to be outgrown
The friendships almost always endured
Relatively few were intrinsically homosexual, and many of those also held an innate hatred for men in general, and became Reds
Morraine and Siuan, especially upon seeing the way they lived the rest of their lives, fell into the former group, I think.
if the show has them in an ongoing romantic relationship, that is entirely inconsistent with their nature in the novels, despite their prior history as pillow friends
It is mentioned several times in the novels that most AS abandoned those proclivities once they became Accepted and obtained greater access to the world, and most regarded that aspect of their history as childish, to be outgrown
The friendships almost always endured
Relatively few were intrinsically homosexual, and many of those also held an innate hatred for men in general, and became Reds
Morraine and Siuan, especially upon seeing the way they lived the rest of their lives, fell into the former group, I think.
if the show has them in an ongoing romantic relationship, that is entirely inconsistent with their nature in the novels, despite their prior history as pillow friends
This post was edited on 4/4/25 at 1:23 pm
Posted on 4/4/25 at 2:53 pm to wadewilson
quote:
So that is actually a book thing.
Only alluding to it, but never actually having them tongue-wrestle.
Posted on 4/4/25 at 3:03 pm to wadewilson
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What would you recommend for a good Sanderson series to start with?
How high-fantasy do you want your scifi? For a more real-world setting you can check out Legion.
For a bit more scifi, but in a superhero form there's The Reckoners
If you're wanting to go full-bore on your scifi but with a space theme: Skyward
If you're looking for a more medieval feel, there's Mistborn (first era) and Stormlight Archives (if you choose either of these, go Mistborn first because... reasons).
Posted on 4/4/25 at 3:06 pm to luvdoc
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developed romantic and at least minimally-physical relationships
Robert Jordan:
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Pillow friends are not just good friends. Oh, they are that, too, but they also get hot and sweaty together and muss up the sheets something fierce.
It was 100% intended to be physical same sex romantic relationships by Jordan.
However it was mostly because as you say they were locked away with minimal male interaction
Rafe is gay and married to a man (a Warder in the show), so of course he has amped up drastically the homosexuality of the show.
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