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re: The Walking Dead - I'm getting bored
Posted on 10/21/13 at 5:44 pm to Unknown_Poster
Posted on 10/21/13 at 5:44 pm to Unknown_Poster
Unknown what exactly are you wanting? Seems between 2-3 everyone said there wasn't enough zombie killing, then between 3-4 not enough story.
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Posted on 10/21/13 at 5:49 pm to Libertyabides71
I've never complained about the amount of zombie killing so there's no inconsistency on my part. Although it stands to reason you might see it from others as the series has switched showrunners multiple times. Zombie killing is pretty irrelevant now, anyway, as they stopped being the real danger a couple of seasons ago.
This post was edited on 10/21/13 at 5:50 pm
Posted on 10/21/13 at 6:33 pm to elprez00
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Why?
Why?
This post was edited on 10/21/13 at 6:34 pm
Posted on 10/21/13 at 6:58 pm to Unknown_Poster
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It can make for good drama but without any kind of driving narrative I think I'll eventually lose interest.
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.. so we have to be prepared to accept season long prison/newbury arcs.
The problem is those arcs are shallow and boring.
Exactly.
Posted on 10/21/13 at 7:09 pm to Unknown_Poster
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The problem is those arcs are shallow and boring.
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The problem is those arcs are shallow and boring.
I'm not gonna disagree with that. That fault is entirely on the writers, but the idea that these characters should just get back on the road, like the comic does easily, just isn't possible, that's more the point.
Something more needs to be brought to make those tv budget concerns better suited to the show. I think they're doing it slightly so far with the new season, but still there is just too much plot-based stupidity to make it really enjoyable.
Posted on 10/21/13 at 7:16 pm to smkspy
And with the viewers the show attracts/money it makes AMC needs to restore the season 1 budget. They produced seasons 2, 3, and now 4 on the same amount of money each year they got for 1 which only had 6 episodes.
Posted on 10/21/13 at 7:54 pm to smkspy
Out of curiosity, for all the people that "want more" this and that and want it to be "less boring," tell me, what do you want then? What is it that you hate so much about the show that you can't sit back and enjoy it, and just nitpick? If you think you can do better at writing a zombie apocalypse story on basic cable based off a comic by all means... go fricking do it. If not shut the frick up. Everyone knows it's not Breaking Bad or The Wire, or Game of Thrones.
What some people don't understand is that this show has a source material, and they have to keep somewhat to that source as to not alienate long time comic readers. Thing is though they haven't kept to the source material at all other than some locations and SMALL handful of characters. And because of that there are some long time readers that aren't fans of the show. (Don't believe me, go check out Roamers and Lurkers.) Now why have they done that? Don't know, but with the way this board gets about spoilers, it might be so that the readers will tune in each week not knowing what the hell is going to happen, because we don't. Now take something like Game of Thrones that also has a source material and they are doing the exact opposite of what The Walking Dead is doing. (Plus they can do a lot more shocking things on their network. Something The Walking Dead can't do when they need to.)
Also, the first two seasons were done by Frank Darabont. You know where he wanted to take the show? Wanted it to be like you regular network drama, with a very small continuing story and a bunch of who gives a shite/filler episodes. His original idea for the season 2 premier was to do an episode on the lurker soldier that was in the tank with Rick in episode one. He was going to have it where that soldier had helped Lori and Shane get out of Atlanta. It was going to be those types of episodes that were suppose to drive the series, not the continuing story that we have. How's that for boring.
What some people don't understand is that this show has a source material, and they have to keep somewhat to that source as to not alienate long time comic readers. Thing is though they haven't kept to the source material at all other than some locations and SMALL handful of characters. And because of that there are some long time readers that aren't fans of the show. (Don't believe me, go check out Roamers and Lurkers.) Now why have they done that? Don't know, but with the way this board gets about spoilers, it might be so that the readers will tune in each week not knowing what the hell is going to happen, because we don't. Now take something like Game of Thrones that also has a source material and they are doing the exact opposite of what The Walking Dead is doing. (Plus they can do a lot more shocking things on their network. Something The Walking Dead can't do when they need to.)
Also, the first two seasons were done by Frank Darabont. You know where he wanted to take the show? Wanted it to be like you regular network drama, with a very small continuing story and a bunch of who gives a shite/filler episodes. His original idea for the season 2 premier was to do an episode on the lurker soldier that was in the tank with Rick in episode one. He was going to have it where that soldier had helped Lori and Shane get out of Atlanta. It was going to be those types of episodes that were suppose to drive the series, not the continuing story that we have. How's that for boring.
Posted on 10/21/13 at 8:00 pm to thatguy1892
Like I said thatguy Kirkman has veto power over the show. To me that is what has led to the clashing with both Darabont and Mazzara. AMC should have directly optioned it, gave him no power, and put the proper budget into it. Getting 15 million viewers means it needs more than the current budget especially when the current budget is about 3/4 of Mad Men's and that gets a third of the viewers.
Posted on 10/21/13 at 8:08 pm to Neauxla
I got REALLY bored during season 2. I hated everyone.
They killed off all the weak characters and it helped me get back into it.
They killed off all the weak characters and it helped me get back into it.
Posted on 10/21/13 at 8:31 pm to thatguy1892
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If you think you can do better at writing a zombie apocalypse story on basic cable based off a comic by all means... go fricking do it. If not shut the frick up. Everyone knows it's not Breaking Bad or The Wire, or Game of Thrones.
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What is it that you hate so much about the show that you can't sit back and enjoy it, and just nitpick? If you think you can do better at writing a zombie apocalypse story on basic cable based off a comic by all means... go fricking do it. If not shut the frick up. Everyone knows it's not Breaking Bad or The Wire, or Game of Thrones.
And right there, you lost all creditability to making an argument against people criticizing the show.
Personally, I just wish to see these people acting like their in a fricking zombie apocalypse. I get, becoming complacent to point, but what I've seen of the new season is just mind-numbing stupid.
Their population has increased by at least 50 people. So where are those people? They should of had workers killing off fence zombies twenty-four seven. OH, the main fence by the gate is about to come down, I know, Lets get all the main characters to take care of it!!!
Speaking of which, let us talk about defenses, considering the fact they just got a mass influx of labor, from a town that was just turned to shite and overrun with zombies. Where are the defenses? They concoct this great entrance to keep the zombies out, but don't the foresight to extend those fortifications around the rest of the prison?
Not to mention the fact that the zombies are obviously amassing at certain places, but yeah, the only fortifications they can think of is some simple wood braces? I mean, common on, I guess Rick taking care of his pigs is just too important.
See I can totally give a pass for season two when were on the farm, but at this point, no. Those characters know exactly the world that they're living in, and to pretend otherwise, especially after the last season, amounts to nothing more than plot-induced stupidity.
And your other complaints, I LOVE that the show isn't the comic, but at the same time, I want these characters to actually act like they've already been living in a zombie apocalypse for the past two years, and not like it just occurred yesterday.
Edit: This isn't to say that I would to those problems if they were being presented as some newly occurring, but it's plainly obvious that these aspects are something the survivors are aware of, but they're taking no steps to prevent.
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Posted on 10/21/13 at 8:33 pm to smkspy
If you love the comic you will know not being Genre savvy is part of the game. ZA culture was never a part of their culture.
Posted on 10/21/13 at 8:39 pm to Neauxla
Watched the first episode...wtf was with all the "couples" to start the episode? Are they trying to give the female crowd something care about? That just made me really not like where this is all going....the way of a soap opera...
Posted on 10/21/13 at 8:46 pm to tiggerthetooth
Well its a show about the people after the ZA so relationships are a part of that.
Which first episode? Days Gone Bye? What Lies Ahead? Seed? 30 Days without an Accident?
Which first episode? Days Gone Bye? What Lies Ahead? Seed? 30 Days without an Accident?
Posted on 10/21/13 at 9:32 pm to smkspy
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smkspy
How do I lose creditability? The fact that I called out people that criticize and over analyze a fictional show? Yes, they do a lot of stupid things, but if the characters went and actually did the right thing then there would be no show. Everyone would be living happy lives and there would be no problems. Yeah that sounds really exciting, I'd tune in every week.
It's like the people on Goodreads who write review saying that a book sucked but finished reading it anyways. Why? If it sucked why did you finish it? I know plenty of books and shows that I started and didn't finish because I didn't like them. And the one thing I didn't do go bitch about it in a forum. I mean stop watching it if you don't like it.
Posted on 10/21/13 at 10:22 pm to WITNESS23
I don't understand the season 2 hate. That was my favorite season.
Posted on 10/21/13 at 10:31 pm to lsudat10
The static location. Though Season 2 was an improvement of what they would have had from directly adapting the farm storyline. Keeping a great actor like Bernthal around etc. And after Mazzara took over (the back half) was much improved.
I've said before that I think the Walking Dead would improve had they stuck to Darabont's blueprint for the first season. Short seasons with bigger budgets and each season only tells one arc from the Comic.
50/50 original material/adaptation
6-8 Episode Seasons that each do a Comic Arc.
Season 1 - Basically what we got in reality
Season 2 - 8 episode arc about the Farm
Season 3 - 8 episode arc about the prison
Season 4 - 8 episode arc about the Governor War
Season 5 - So on and so forth.
I've said before that I think the Walking Dead would improve had they stuck to Darabont's blueprint for the first season. Short seasons with bigger budgets and each season only tells one arc from the Comic.
50/50 original material/adaptation
6-8 Episode Seasons that each do a Comic Arc.
Season 1 - Basically what we got in reality
Season 2 - 8 episode arc about the Farm
Season 3 - 8 episode arc about the prison
Season 4 - 8 episode arc about the Governor War
Season 5 - So on and so forth.
Posted on 10/21/13 at 11:14 pm to thatguy1892
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If you think you can do better at writing a zombie apocalypse story on basic cable based off a comic by all means... go fricking do it. If not shut the frick up.
Dumbest logic ever. No idea why people make this argument. Same reasoning would preclude you criticizing doctors, lawyers, politicians, plumbers, or anything that's not your profession/expertise.
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What some people don't understand is that this show has a source material, and they have to keep somewhat to that source as to not alienate long time comic readers.
Nope. The people who read the comics are probably a very small fraction of the total viewership. They don't have to be catered to at all.
Posted on 10/22/13 at 11:29 am to Neauxla
I'm new to the show and am enjoying it. My question - aren't we running out of men with the same vigor to fight the zombies as in the beginning? Haven't read the graphic novels and watched as much as I could during the marathon before the latest season. TIA.
Posted on 10/22/13 at 3:19 pm to flvelo12
what part are you at?
Posted on 10/22/13 at 4:34 pm to Libertyabides71
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what part are you at?
I'm caught up to current episode. May have missed a few, but I believe I've got the storyline down. But dammit, I've never seen the first episode!!
(Thank goodness for youtube recaps)
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