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re: The Val Kilmer documentary on Prime is very good.
Posted on 8/11/21 at 9:30 am to OldHickory
Posted on 8/11/21 at 9:30 am to OldHickory
Great doc, but I was a little bummed that he didn't seem to think highly of Top Secret... maybe he came around to appreciating it by the time he appeared in MacGruber, lol
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Posted on 8/11/21 at 9:34 am to vandelay industries
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Great doc, but I was a little bummed that he didn't seem to think highly of Top Secret... maybe he came around to appreciating it by the time he appeared in MacGruber, lol
Real Genius got less of a mention.
Posted on 8/12/21 at 4:45 pm to OldHickory
Amazing, heartbreaking doc. Happy to see that he's very close with his kids. Nice to see his ex show up too. Gave me a new perspective on his acting, & will add that Spartan is one of his underrated gems.
Posted on 8/12/21 at 4:55 pm to Fewer Kilometers
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Real Genius got less of a mention.
Thematically it sort of works as a "pre-Top Gun" film akin to Cruise's Risky Business, but as it is my sentimental favorite film of his (although not performance, that's still Doc), I wish we would have gotten more on that experience.
Posted on 8/12/21 at 8:42 pm to Ace Midnight
Stupid Prime won't let me stream it internationally, but really want to see it. Did they feature Val's experience in Baton Rouge on the classic "Blood Out"?
It was a not a highlight for either of us .... but what i recall most was what he forgot -- his lines. They had to make cue cards and tape them to the floor. It was sad. We needed an LA style pool and a friend of mine had a sweet (and rare) mid century home .. i convinced her to let the production use it for a quick scene of Val on the phone by the pool. With a rule - no crew in the house. Val shows up ... walks in straight away and lays down on the sofa with shoes on. (Rick James style). Thankfully the set was lit quickly and he was by the pool.
I also saw him open up for Ryan Adams at the Disney Hall -- as Mark Twain. Complete surprise and he did a great job.
interesting career and person... can't wait to see it.
It was a not a highlight for either of us .... but what i recall most was what he forgot -- his lines. They had to make cue cards and tape them to the floor. It was sad. We needed an LA style pool and a friend of mine had a sweet (and rare) mid century home .. i convinced her to let the production use it for a quick scene of Val on the phone by the pool. With a rule - no crew in the house. Val shows up ... walks in straight away and lays down on the sofa with shoes on. (Rick James style). Thankfully the set was lit quickly and he was by the pool.
I also saw him open up for Ryan Adams at the Disney Hall -- as Mark Twain. Complete surprise and he did a great job.
interesting career and person... can't wait to see it.
Posted on 8/12/21 at 10:53 pm to SteelerBravesDawg
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He was absolutely brilliant as Doc in Tombstone.
quote:Yes, most definitely, he was cheated out of it that nite, it was an incredible portrayal.
Should have won an Oscar for Tombstone.
This post was edited on 8/12/21 at 11:16 pm
Posted on 8/13/21 at 8:53 am to Fewer Kilometers
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Real Genius got less of a mention.
I was hoping for a little more on The Ghost and The Darkness too. There was just a scene with him in a tree and a lion trying to get him while his voiceover was talking about something else.
One thing that he talked about a fair bit was that he feels fine having fully recovered from throat cancer but he has the hole in his trachea which is why he talks the way he does. Is there not a process to improve that?
Posted on 8/13/21 at 8:59 am to flvelo12
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Happy to see that he's very close with his kids. Nice to see his ex show up too.
His relationship with his kids, parents and his generally positive philosophical outlook on his life and fans was the best part of the documentary to me.
It was good to see his ex show up but there was one very brief clip that was troubling that went unexplained - perhaps for obvious reasons that he didn't want to. It was a brief clip on a beach where he'd written "val and Joanne" in a heart on the sand; she comes along and angrily wipes it out with her feet and screams "no way, never going to happen!" at him. Damn. Made me wonder if he was hoping they'd reconcile and she basically said "frick off".
This post was edited on 8/13/21 at 8:59 am
Posted on 8/13/21 at 10:08 am to LaylaClapton
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One thing that he talked about a fair bit was that he feels fine having fully recovered from throat cancer but he has the hole in his trachea which is why he talks the way he does. Is there not a process to improve that?
I wondered the same thing. Physically while he's a little off, he seems to be able to move around and perform everyday life functions pretty easily. It's just his throat is fricked up. Surely there has to be something that can make that situation better for him, even speaking (unless maybe his voicebox or whatever was destroyed by the cancer..?).
It's crazy how much his son sounds like him sometimes (when narrating).
Posted on 8/13/21 at 10:23 am to CocomoLSU
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It's crazy how much his son sounds like him sometimes (when narrating).
Agree, and I wondered how much of that is natural vs performance - probably some of both.
Posted on 8/13/21 at 4:03 pm to LaylaClapton
quote:I think it's kind of different for everyone who has a Tracheotomy. Some people are able to talk without holding anything but a finger over the hole. I have a friend who had vocal cord cancer and had to have a Tracheotomy. He can talk by breathing out, and just holding his finger over the hole. He said it just comes naturally to some people, and he was lucky to be one. His voice still sounds rough, and no where near what it had been, but it doesn't have that electric sound.
Is there not a process to improve that?
Here's what an article on www.speechbuddy.com says about it.
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Long-Term Communication Methods
Once your loved one begins to heal from the procedure, the doctor will teach him to use other communication methods. The exact method your loved one can use depends on his specific medical condition. A speech-language pathologist (SLP) will work with the doctor and the patient to help him regain his communication skills.
Covering the Tube
Some patients will be able to cover the tube with a hand, breathe through the mouth or nose, and produce speech in this manner. Some children are even able to learn to cover the valve with their chins while speaking. However, not everyone can cope with the additional resistance to breathing that this causes.
Using Valves
The doctor may attach a valve to the tube. Different types of valves offer different benefits. Some can help increase the oxygen levels in the blood, while others enhance the patient’s sense of smell. Patients wearing a Passy-Muir speaking valve are able to expel air through the mouth and nose. As the patient exhales, the valve closes and air passes through the vocal cords to allow for vocalization.
Speaking With a Ventilator
If your loved one is connected to a ventilator to help him breathe, speech can only occur during the expiratory cycle in which air is expelled. When this cycle ends, he will only be able to resume speech during the next expiratory cycle. This tends to disrupt the typical patterns of speech. His voice may sound different and it may abruptly become quieter or louder. He may stop suddenly in the middle of a sentence. Be patient and wait to respond until you are sure that he is finished speaking.
Posted on 8/13/21 at 8:09 pm to OldHickory
He was bat man, and i enjoyed him as the "Saint", not a good movie, but i enjoyed his character.
And he'll always be remembered in Real Genius
And he'll always be remembered in Real Genius
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