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The Real Charlie Chaplin - showtime documentary
Posted on 12/13/21 at 5:03 pm
Posted on 12/13/21 at 5:03 pm
It’s pretty interesting. Like most comedians, he was pretty fricked up. Came from the slums of London and became probably the most famous person in the world. He liked them young too. They use actual taped interviews from people back in the day and reenact them.
It was funny when he started talking, the narrator talks about how he couldn’t STFU. It got him in a bit of trouble with J Edgar in the post war red scare. Anyway, well done doc about an interesting life.
It was funny when he started talking, the narrator talks about how he couldn’t STFU. It got him in a bit of trouble with J Edgar in the post war red scare. Anyway, well done doc about an interesting life.
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Posted on 12/14/21 at 8:01 pm to tigerpimpbot
Just started
Posted on 12/14/21 at 9:36 pm to tigerpimpbot
As a fan of Hollywood history, I've never really been able to warm up to Chaplin, or even really given his films a chance.
He comes up in a lot of books on Hollywood and it seems like the writer always tries to portray him as a sympathetic figure, while also revealing what a perv he was. I'm guessing that it was his radical political views that gets him a pass.
He comes up in a lot of books on Hollywood and it seems like the writer always tries to portray him as a sympathetic figure, while also revealing what a perv he was. I'm guessing that it was his radical political views that gets him a pass.
Posted on 12/14/21 at 9:53 pm to DaleGribble
Chaplain was a raving communist.
Posted on 12/14/21 at 10:15 pm to Jack Ruby
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Chaplain was a raving communist.
He was a narcissistic douche, complicated perfectionist, Uber famous Hollywood in the 20’s banging underaged girls with Fatty Arbuckle etc, but he also been witch-hunt like the Jan 6 insurrectionists are getting now, by the press coupled with the FBI which is what struck me about his story.
The FBI have now flipped to the Marxist side and have the media in their pocket. It’s both scary and fascinating.
Posted on 12/14/21 at 10:34 pm to tigerpimpbot
I wonder how Chaplin would have fared in modern Hollywood?
Posted on 12/14/21 at 11:17 pm to tigerpimpbot
Chaplin was nuts....
But City Lights is one of the best things ever put on film.
For the matter so is Modern Times. And probably Gold Rush.
Not many filmmakers can say that.
But City Lights is one of the best things ever put on film.
For the matter so is Modern Times. And probably Gold Rush.
Not many filmmakers can say that.
Posted on 12/14/21 at 11:22 pm to Havoc
Stan Laurel was his back up in Fred Karno's troupe of actors, one writer back then reviewing the troupe said Stan was the better of the two comedians.
Fred taught both about stage comedy.
Charlie was a user and WWI turned many to the left.
Posted on 12/14/21 at 11:49 pm to tigerpimpbot
Red Skelton bought the old Chaplin studio in 1961
Posted on 12/15/21 at 12:00 am to Kafka
Jim Henson owned it for awhile too. Not sure who owns it now but it's still around. Can't say that about many of the buildings from early Hollywood.
Posted on 1/6/22 at 3:55 pm to tigerpimpbot
I finally watched this last night and couldn't get over how fair and honest it was about his life. This is how documentaries used to be and it'd be nice to see more of this.
I've seen several lately(Woodstock 99 on HBO, The Ripper and The Times Square Killer on Netflix) where they are interviewing people in the documentary who are telling you things that directly contradict what you're seeing and hearing from the actual footage in other parts of the documentary.
It's almost like they can't find any footage that supports whatever narrative they are wanting to push and expect viewers not to notice the contradictions.
I've seen several lately(Woodstock 99 on HBO, The Ripper and The Times Square Killer on Netflix) where they are interviewing people in the documentary who are telling you things that directly contradict what you're seeing and hearing from the actual footage in other parts of the documentary.
It's almost like they can't find any footage that supports whatever narrative they are wanting to push and expect viewers not to notice the contradictions.
This post was edited on 1/6/22 at 3:56 pm
Posted on 1/6/22 at 4:02 pm to tigerpimpbot
I contend Chaplin is still RDJ's best acting role.
Posted on 1/6/22 at 4:09 pm to Freauxzen
quote:My daughter and her family came to visit over the holidays. I sat down on the couch with my grandchildren, ages 8 and 6, and we watched Gold Rush together. They'd never seen a silent movie before. The movie is almost 100 years old and they laughed their little heads off.
But City Lights is one of the best things ever put on film.
For the matter so is Modern Times. And probably Gold Rush.
IMO, Chaplin is the greatest genius who ever worked in Hollywood
Posted on 1/6/22 at 4:41 pm to L.A.
I don't need or want a socially approved actor, writer or director.
Charlie was pure genius on the screen and a joy to watch.
Charlie was pure genius on the screen and a joy to watch.
Posted on 1/6/22 at 4:52 pm to goatmilker
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I don't need or want a socially approved actor, writer or director.
No comment on seducing 12 year olds?
Posted on 1/6/22 at 5:35 pm to tigerpimpbot
Loved the narration on it. Great doc
After watching it, I went down a YouTube rabbit hole watching old Chaplin videos.
Came across this Buster Keaton stunt highlight video
Incredible how effortlessly he made those stunts look
After watching it, I went down a YouTube rabbit hole watching old Chaplin videos.
Came across this Buster Keaton stunt highlight video
Incredible how effortlessly he made those stunts look
This post was edited on 1/6/22 at 6:36 pm
Posted on 1/6/22 at 6:56 pm to DaleGribble
Goodness.
If true that's horrible.
What he put on film is still genius.
I guess Plato and Socrates are off limits too?
If true that's horrible.
What he put on film is still genius.
I guess Plato and Socrates are off limits too?
Posted on 1/6/22 at 9:25 pm to goatmilker
They had footage of an interview with Lita Grey that looked like it was probably from the 80s(his second wife that was 12 when she was in The Kid).
She also mentioned how he got her pregnant and didn't want to marry her, but he decided to do it in Mexico to avoid media attention. On the train to Mexico, he told her that she could fix everything if she would just jump off.
It's her word against his, but he has a really long track record of teen brides and girlfriends. Hollywood was as bad in the silent era as it is now.
She also mentioned how he got her pregnant and didn't want to marry her, but he decided to do it in Mexico to avoid media attention. On the train to Mexico, he told her that she could fix everything if she would just jump off.
It's her word against his, but he has a really long track record of teen brides and girlfriends. Hollywood was as bad in the silent era as it is now.
Posted on 1/6/22 at 11:12 pm to goatmilker
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I guess Plato and Socrates are off limits too?
Nobody's trying to get anyone canceled. It's just nice to see flaws pointed out when they're something along those lines. The same goes for playing clips from his own speeches to let people see why he was considered a Communist.
On a side note, it kills me how the " I separate the art from the artist crowd" gets so defensive about idolizing someone like Chaplin or Roman Polanski.
Posted on 1/7/22 at 12:37 pm to tigerpimpbot
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i think you nailed it
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