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re: The People v. O.J. Simpson: American Crime Story series long thread
Posted on 3/26/16 at 8:03 pm to OMLandshark
Posted on 3/26/16 at 8:03 pm to OMLandshark
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Of course he did it. It's literally one in a billion he didn't do it from the DNA evidence.
That's literally not true. Aside from the fact that the vast majority of the DNA was incompetently collected and handled poorly and considered contaminated, there was VERY little blood supposedly tying OJ to the scene.
It is completely implausible that a man who had just brutally butchered two humans that were left literally drenched in blood, lying in a rising tide of blood that was spread all over the steps and walk way was able to drive his bronco back to his home and in 10 minutes or so, undress the bloody mess, shower and remove all traces from himself and apparently chemical wash his piping and dispose of all of his clothing, save two socks that he conveniently left in the most auspicious spot (the middle of his bedroom floor) with two perfect little circle drops of blood, all while getting just Trace amounts of blood on or in the bronco which had not been cleaned or wiped down...?
Also, Google Ron Goldman's knuckles. The dude was trained in martial arts and while some people just remember him as some poor guy that got killed at the wrong place wrong time, Truth is he went out like a man. Whoever cut him left with some serious damage, more than likely to the face... (OJ had no bruises/contusions, scrapes or otherwise on his body or face)
Assuming the foot print from the Bruno shoe was his, and accepting the testimony of the lady in her car that never testified it is likely that OJ entered the crime scene shortly after the murders...
This post was edited on 3/26/16 at 8:08 pm
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Posted on 3/26/16 at 8:20 pm to More&Les
As the show itself puts it, bullshite conspiracy theories. You are a total fool of you think OJ didn't kill them.
Posted on 3/26/16 at 8:40 pm to OMLandshark
So you're going off the TV show and the actress saying "mountain of evidence", "mountain of evidence"....
The thing is, there wasn't a mountain of evidence. It might have been enough to convict a regular schmo with a public defender but the fact is, there was plenty of reasonable doubt.
Now, you may think I'm defending OJ, I'm not, I always thought he knew who did it and that he was somehow involved. There is a book about who I now personally believe the actual killer is, Jason Simpson. Or just Google it.
Some think it's a conspiracy theory and that's fine, it was a conspiracy to cover Jason's crime.
Did you know that OJ hired an attorney for Jason less than 18 hours after the murders? He didn’t hire his own attorneys until he was arrested a few days later.
Could it be he anticipated Jason needing representation and not himself...?
The thing is, there wasn't a mountain of evidence. It might have been enough to convict a regular schmo with a public defender but the fact is, there was plenty of reasonable doubt.
Now, you may think I'm defending OJ, I'm not, I always thought he knew who did it and that he was somehow involved. There is a book about who I now personally believe the actual killer is, Jason Simpson. Or just Google it.
Some think it's a conspiracy theory and that's fine, it was a conspiracy to cover Jason's crime.
Did you know that OJ hired an attorney for Jason less than 18 hours after the murders? He didn’t hire his own attorneys until he was arrested a few days later.
Could it be he anticipated Jason needing representation and not himself...?
This post was edited on 3/26/16 at 8:41 pm
Posted on 3/26/16 at 9:05 pm to More&Les
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So you're going off the TV show
The part that I'm going off the TV show is that any theory that he's innocent is a conspiracy theory. It clearly is. There is no other rational explanation aside from OJ murdering them.
Posted on 3/26/16 at 9:14 pm to OMLandshark
You keep expecting people to provide you an explanation or the alternative killer rather than what the state solely focused on before knowing not much about anything.
It's not conspiracy to be a juror and say my job only involves reasonable doubt...and not to provide an alternative to what the state wants.
It's not, if not OJ than who? Well, America and LA is a big place...it's about analysing some of the States dubious evidence and having doubt about the power of such head- scratching evidence, timeline and human anatomy.
It's not conspiracy to be a juror and say my job only involves reasonable doubt...and not to provide an alternative to what the state wants.
It's not, if not OJ than who? Well, America and LA is a big place...it's about analysing some of the States dubious evidence and having doubt about the power of such head- scratching evidence, timeline and human anatomy.
Posted on 3/26/16 at 9:15 pm to OMLandshark
I think it's plausible o.j.'s son did it, o.j. found him and helped him get out of there. It's unlikely, but plausible.
Posted on 3/26/16 at 9:23 pm to OMLandshark
I almost gave this a shot the other night but I saw Travolta's eyebrows (I guess he's supposed to be Shapiro) and LOL'd before changing the channel
Posted on 3/26/16 at 9:26 pm to OMLandshark
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The part that I'm going off the TV show is that any theory that he's innocent is a conspiracy theory. It clearly is. There is no other rational explanation aside from OJ murdering them.
And yet you can't articulate why you think he did it other than to say if you don't think like me you must be stupid.
Can you refute the info I provided regarding the actual blood evidence??
This post was edited on 3/26/16 at 9:32 pm
Posted on 3/26/16 at 9:35 pm to mizzoubuckeyeiowa
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It's not, if not OJ than who? Well, America and LA is a big place...it's about analysing some of the States dubious evidence and having doubt about the power of such head- scratching evidence, timeline and human anatomy.
OK, Johnny Cochran. Anyone could be a murderer in LA? Murderers everywhere? Yeah, who the frick is going to go kill Nicole in the exact time frame that OJ needs to be pronounced guilty (as well as when people have seen him shortly after the murders). Why would he kill her the second a sex partner is there? Why was OJ's blood and shoe prints there? Just a coincidence. You're an idiot.
Posted on 3/26/16 at 9:38 pm to Byron Bojangles III
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I think it's plausible o.j.'s son did it, o.j. found him and helped him get out of there. It's unlikely, but plausible.
That's the thing, at the time I had no alternative therory, I didn't buy the columbian neck (less) tie bs or any of the other wild conspiracies going around. (Jason wasn't a therory back then, that I knew of)
I just knew there were major problems with the case presented by MC and CD.
Now that I know more about the Jason therory I lean toward that as it puts the puzzle pieces together, imo...
Posted on 3/26/16 at 9:39 pm to More&Les
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And yet you can't articulate why you think he did it other than to say if you don't think like me you must be stupid.
I can articulate that. His blood everywhere. His shoe print is there. The timeline is there. The motive is there. Everyone who knows him knows he did it. He wrote a book "IF I Did It". He has said that only he and AC know who the killer is. AC broke down in the court room. The photo when he saw the prosecution had the Bruno Mali shoes in the civil case. No, I have plenty of god damn evidence that anyone of reasonable intelligence would know he killed them.
Posted on 3/26/16 at 9:44 pm to OMLandshark
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His blood everywhere.
What trial did you watch?
Or is this just your TV show knowledge?
This post was edited on 3/26/16 at 9:45 pm
Posted on 3/26/16 at 9:54 pm to OMLandshark
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OK, Johnny Cochran. Anyone could be a murderer in LA? Murderers everywhere? Yeah, who the frick is going to go kill Nicole in the exact time frame that OJ needs to be pronounced guilty (as well as when people have seen him shortly after the murders). Why would he kill her the second a sex partner is there? Why was OJ's blood and shoe prints there? Just a coincidence. You're an idiot
Well, Nicole was supposed to have dinner at the restaurant Jason worked at that night and the therory is; Jason went to confront her for not showing up (he was unstable with a history of violence and mental issues and also blamed Nicole for her and OJs marital problems) he walked up on her and RG and took it for something it's wasn't, got into it with RG (who landed some righteous blows) ended up knifing him while NBS watched in shock, he then nearly decapitated her.
In panic he called OJ, OJ rushed over made the footprint and told Jason to meet him back at Rockingham.
Jason came in the back, dropped glove, OJ let him in the back, told him to get rid of clothes, weapon and lay low - 'we'll hire an attorney in the morning but don't talk to anyone'
OJ off to Chicago, cops focus solely on OJ, timeline works, smudge a little evidence here and there to make it stick, the rest is history...
Posted on 3/26/16 at 10:03 pm to mizzoubuckeyeiowa
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What trial did you watch?
Or is this just your TV show knowledge?
It was just everywhere it needed to be. His blood was everywhere, even if it was drops of it. We didn't need gallons of it.
Posted on 3/26/16 at 10:05 pm to OMLandshark
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articulate that. His blood everywhere. His shoe print is there. The timeline is there. The motive is there. Everyone who knows him knows he did it. He wrote a book "IF I Did It". He has said that only he and AC know who the killer is. AC broke down in the court room. The photo when he saw the prosecution had the Bruno Mali shoes in the civil case. No, I have plenty of god damn evidence that anyone of reasonable intelligence would know he killed them
His blood was NOT everywhere, in fact there was none of it at the murder scene, there was also blood and DNA that was never identified but they couldn't rule OJ out...
I've already explained the ONE shoe print, which again, is consistent with someone entering the scene after the fact and not proceeding through the scene. If that print belonged to the killer it would have been all over.
He is a scumbag, the book was written by a scumbag who knew what happened and wanted money...
I suspect AC and OJ are the only two that knew Jason did it.
Again, the shoes that made one print...
You seem angry, that doesn't make you right, nor does the dumb arse argument that all of OJs friends thought he was guilty, that's not evidence.
This post was edited on 3/26/16 at 10:07 pm
Posted on 3/26/16 at 10:14 pm to More&Les
I would hang myself if sequestered in a hotel for 8 months with no tv or interaction with the outside world.
Posted on 3/26/16 at 10:21 pm to OMLandshark
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Yeah, who the frick is going to go kill Nicole in the exact time frame that OJ needs to be pronounced guilty (as well as when people have seen him shortly after the murders).
Why don't you visit Barry Schecks website on the Innocence Project...and educate yourself on the thorough job police do...and how their target is the juries assumption...hell, got arrested - must have did it...and I pointed this out earlier in the thread...they go to the S.O. and close down shop.
How long before the detectives were at OJs hopping the fence before any blood was collected or evidence gathered at the crime scene? 15 minutes? And then search the property without a warrant.
You sound like someone who thinks obvious targets are the only targets...and the fact that the state solely targeted OJ and could come up with only little specks of this and that...and some of it strangely dubious like the socks...and a pretty damn pristine Bronco...means you just never bothered to actually put some critical thinking to what the state actually presented...not what the press told you or your blinders mentality that first declares guilty like the cops and then tries to prove it.
It shows how the general public doesn't really bother to ask basic questions.
Like, as I've mentioned many times in the thread?
Where is all that blood from the crime scene...did it disappear into vapor?
How does OJ get home? It can't be the Bronco unless he is a magical person.
Instead, you just want to call people names and say..
Duh, cops said he did it...so?
This post was edited on 3/26/16 at 10:23 pm
Posted on 3/26/16 at 10:25 pm to mizzoubuckeyeiowa
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Dropping that F bomb again
FX is a premium cable channel not basic cable. They can say whatever they hell they want. Why does that continue to surprise people?
Posted on 3/26/16 at 10:29 pm to mizzoubuckeyeiowa
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Why don't you visit Barry Schecks website on the Innocence Project.
Barry thinks he's guilty, so moot point if I've ever heard one.
Posted on 3/26/16 at 10:49 pm to OMLandshark
Why argue with simple minded people who just want their hero to be innocent? They'll just drag you down to their level and beat you with experience. Hell, they are basically arguing he isn't guilty of murder, just accessory after the fact.
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