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re: The People v. O.J. Simpson: American Crime Story series long thread
Posted on 3/26/16 at 11:24 pm to KingSlayer
Posted on 3/26/16 at 11:24 pm to KingSlayer
So people asking honest firesnic questions that make no sense are the simple minded ones but the people who don't see real flaws in the States theory because they don't bother or can't bring themselves to question inconsistent evidence... These are the smart ones...the ones who think OJ is guilty in the big picture but don't bother to reconcile the small picture or don't care about the evidence that was actually presented.
OJ is no hero, he's in prison now...but si many want to take the shortcut... Whatever the TV tells me, he's the husband, must be guilty...
Hell, I read a post on here someone lamenting the fact that Goldman was just some poor waiter returning sunglasses to some stranger...it's like half still haven't heard the full story if this case.
OJ is no hero, he's in prison now...but si many want to take the shortcut... Whatever the TV tells me, he's the husband, must be guilty...
Hell, I read a post on here someone lamenting the fact that Goldman was just some poor waiter returning sunglasses to some stranger...it's like half still haven't heard the full story if this case.
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Posted on 3/26/16 at 11:27 pm to mizzoubuckeyeiowa
Anyone of intelligence knows the simplest answer is usually the correct one. My explanation is simple. Yours is jumping through hoops and putting forth some grand conspiracy that makes no sense. 99% of the time, it is the simple answer that leads to the truth. Humans are highly predictable, and what you're proposing is absolute nonsense.
Well, that's not the simplest answer though, is it? A man has never gone to return a hot woman's sunglasses in history aside from the Simpson trial. The simplest answer is that he was going over there to bang. Of course that's what he was there for.
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Hell, I read a post on here someone lamenting the fact that Goldman was just some poor waiter returning sunglasses to some stranger...it's like half still haven't heard the full story if this case.
Well, that's not the simplest answer though, is it? A man has never gone to return a hot woman's sunglasses in history aside from the Simpson trial. The simplest answer is that he was going over there to bang. Of course that's what he was there for.
This post was edited on 3/26/16 at 11:31 pm
Posted on 3/26/16 at 11:57 pm to LSUvegasbombed
This crime has one elephant in the room...if people think someone could leave that crime scene after a gory blood soaked fight and drive home and leave the evidence equivalent of someone who cut themselves shaving, then I don't know what to tell you...
If he did it as his book says, I don't know how he pulled it off.
Or you think OJ wore a Hazmat suit?...What's your theory?
You are not stabbed 22 times if it's a surprise kill as the prosecution tried to sell and both died almost immediately giving OJ time enough to get home and the catch his flight under their short timeline...and they gave the jury that short timeline...
He killed two people, incinerated his clothes by magic - hopped in the Bronco naked clean from the blood bath, drove home, talked to Kato, hit some golf balls for a few minutes and took a limo to the airport?
That makes sense...
No one ever addresses the absurd timeline and lack if blood evidence... Like real blood...not pin dots and 1/8 inch smears.
If he did it as his book says, I don't know how he pulled it off.
Or you think OJ wore a Hazmat suit?...What's your theory?
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Goldman could have struggled for up to 15 minutes, largely staying on his feet while he was stabbed 22 times before falling to the ground.
Goldman's wounds also suggested a fierce struggle.
You are not stabbed 22 times if it's a surprise kill as the prosecution tried to sell and both died almost immediately giving OJ time enough to get home and the catch his flight under their short timeline...and they gave the jury that short timeline...
He killed two people, incinerated his clothes by magic - hopped in the Bronco naked clean from the blood bath, drove home, talked to Kato, hit some golf balls for a few minutes and took a limo to the airport?
That makes sense...
No one ever addresses the absurd timeline and lack if blood evidence... Like real blood...not pin dots and 1/8 inch smears.
This post was edited on 3/26/16 at 11:59 pm
Posted on 3/27/16 at 12:43 am to mizzoubuckeyeiowa
You're right, OJ is totally innocent. Feel better?
Posted on 3/27/16 at 11:08 am to More&Les
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Also, Google Ron Goldman's knuckles. The dude was trained in martial arts and while some people just remember him as some poor guy that got killed at the wrong place wrong time, Truth is he went out like a man. Whoever cut him left with some serious damage, more than likely to the face... (OJ had no bruises/contusions, scrapes or otherwise on his body or face)
This is a big issue for me, but we are just ignorant dumbasses so what do we know
I will repeat, I think OJ was likely responsible for the deaths, I think he was at the scene during or shortly after, and I think he knows what truly happened
Posted on 3/27/16 at 11:11 am to Byron Bojangles III
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think it's plausible o.j.'s son did it, o.j. found him and helped him get out of there. It's unlikely, but plausible.
Even though I'm skeptical of it I would say it's probably most likely that OJ did it (that is not "beyond reasonable doubt" btw), but if he didn't this is my favorite theory for now. I'm still reading and gathering info on the case so that may very well change
Sad thing is all of this could been avoided if the state/LAPD had even came close to doing their job properly
Posted on 3/27/16 at 11:13 am to Wishnitwas1998
O.j. Isn't a smart man. I wouldn't put it past him to have had someone murder them then show up himself to make sure they were dead.
Posted on 3/27/16 at 11:19 am to KingSlayer
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Why argue with simple minded people who just want their hero to be innocent?
Hero? The guy is an egotistical piece of shite at BEST. I certainly don't count him as some sort of hero or role model but I'm sorry I just to look at things on my own and draw my own conclusions and don't just agree with what everyone else thinks
Posted on 3/27/16 at 11:22 am to mizzoubuckeyeiowa
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.. Hell, I read a post on here someone lamenting the fact that Goldman was just some poor waiter returning sunglasses to some stranger...it's like half still haven't heard the full story if this case.
To be fair there's nothing wrong with banging a divorced woman........now the supposed drug use...
Posted on 3/27/16 at 1:43 pm to mizzoubuckeyeiowa
Yeah, that whole Bronco chase with the gun to his head really screamed "I'm just an innocent man grieving for the ex wife I used to beat like a rag doll!" 
Posted on 3/27/16 at 6:36 pm to More&Les
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Go back to his home in the 10 minutes or so
Where the hell are you getting this shite?Not even the DEFENSE claims this.They claim 12 minutes and its from a witness who was a FULL BLOCK away from the crime scene who claimed he heard "hey,hey,hey" not scream mind you but that.The Akita was heard barking at 10:15 to 10:30 and Kato
put the time of entrence at 10:52.Well within a reasonable ti e frame.
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Trace amounts of blood on or near the Bronco
Once again,WTF? Per Det Lange on blood in the Bronco
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There was large amounts of blood in the Bronco.It wasn't pools but a tremendous amount and it only belonged to 3 people.OJ,Nicole and Ron Goodman.
Where are you getting these talking points? Bill Dear's book? Becuase you're regurgitating all of his now discredited theories.
Even he ADMITS that he has "no idea" how OJ's blood was found on the scene and he also dismissed any type of theory in regards to the detectives planting his blood.
This post was edited on 3/27/16 at 7:14 pm
Posted on 3/27/16 at 8:27 pm to JuiceTerry
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Yeah, that whole Bronco chase with the gun to his head really screamed "I'm just an innocent man grieving for the ex wife I used to beat like a rag doll!"
Don't let us idiots fool you. That's clearly what was going on!
Posted on 3/27/16 at 8:49 pm to KingSlayer
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Why argue with simple minded people who just want their hero to be innocent? They'll just drag you down to their level and beat you with experience. Hell, they are basically arguing he isn't guilty of murder, just accessory after the fact.
This is some drivel right there. OJ Simpson is not now, nor has he ever been a hero of mine. He was a football player before I can really recall and I don't normally idolize Rent-a-car spokespeoples.
Here's what I said earlier in the thread:
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Now, you may think I'm defending OJ, I'm not, I always thought he knew who did it and that he was somehow involved. There is a book about who I now personally believe the actual killer is, Jason Simpson. Or just Google it.
I also said that OJ is a scumbag, as he is a complete wife beating, self entitled pos scumbag.
And I've never called him innocent, I said that I don't believe he was the killer.
If the LAPD and prosecutor wasn't so incompetent then Jason would have been investegated, prosecuted and convicted of two counts of 1st degree murder.
OJ would have been convicted as an accessory, perhaps even a conspirator and for obstruction of justice. I don't know the max penalty is in California but that would have a start.
At the end of the day, imo, he helped his son get away with murdering the mother of his other two children.
It is entirely satisfying that he got his arse handed to him in the civil action and in going to prison for a long arse time for essentially arguing with some dudes over his own property.
Posted on 3/27/16 at 9:02 pm to OMLandshark
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Anyone of intelligence knows
You start or finish virtually every one of your arguments with this conjecture. Let me just tell you, it's weak, lazy and unconvincing.
Posted on 3/27/16 at 9:11 pm to More&Les
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You start or finish virtually every one of your arguments with this conjecture. Let me just tell you, it's weak, lazy and unconvincing.
Unconvincing? With the blood evidence? There is literally nothing I can say that is "convincing" to you.
Posted on 3/27/16 at 9:16 pm to More&Les
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If the LAPD and prosecutor wasn't so incompetent then Jason would have been investegated, prosecuted and convicted of two counts of 1st degree murder.
So you don't know if OJ is the killer, but you know his son would have been convicted? You know this? Lol. You're right. I apologize for the majority of the people in the country that thought OJ was guilty. Carry on.
Posted on 3/27/16 at 9:27 pm to More&Les
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he helped his son get away with murder
horseshite amd there's not one shred of evedence to support this discredited theory.
Oh yea,I forgot.He was a cook at the time and had a complete set chef knives.
Posted on 3/27/16 at 9:40 pm to OMLandshark
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Unconvincing? With the blood evidence? There is literally nothing I can say that is "convincing" to you.
Not when you just spout off the TV shows simplified and in some cases misleading script.
And frankly, I'm willing to back up my opinions with the facts as available....
Posted on 3/27/16 at 9:58 pm to More&Les
How many people in this thread actually watched the trial day by day? I ask bc doing that is totally different from reading about it and watching post shows, especially this one. This show is dramatically shorter and not totally accurate.
I think he did it, but as I've said before, the prosecution and police gave the jury plenty of outs. Factor Ito into the disaster that was this trial. I don't believe it's a stretch to have doubts of his guilt. It's not the same to look at it post trials with all the books and media shows on it. Not the same at all. I knew he wouldn't be found guilty. Had nothing to do with his race. He was also beloved before this incident. Factor that in.
If you weren't around when this was going on and didn't watch the trial, I discount your opinion by a lot. You have no idea of the real deal. Zero. Fact.
The jurors were not rocket scientists and they'd been locked up for 9 months with a ton of non trial time and waiting. Factor that in, too.
I think he did it, but as I've said before, the prosecution and police gave the jury plenty of outs. Factor Ito into the disaster that was this trial. I don't believe it's a stretch to have doubts of his guilt. It's not the same to look at it post trials with all the books and media shows on it. Not the same at all. I knew he wouldn't be found guilty. Had nothing to do with his race. He was also beloved before this incident. Factor that in.
If you weren't around when this was going on and didn't watch the trial, I discount your opinion by a lot. You have no idea of the real deal. Zero. Fact.
The jurors were not rocket scientists and they'd been locked up for 9 months with a ton of non trial time and waiting. Factor that in, too.
Posted on 3/27/16 at 10:04 pm to Gris Gris
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Factor Ito into the disaster that was this trial.
He's really the only factor. The fricking clown should have never allowed the cameras in the court room and made the trial last 3 months tops. Ito is the reason OJ got off. He was only interested in his own fame and I'd spit in his face if I saw him in person. I utterly despise the man.
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