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re: The official Interstellar thread (spoilers)
Posted on 11/14/14 at 1:58 am to abellsujr
Posted on 11/14/14 at 1:58 am to abellsujr
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Which is exactly why Cooper has to find her.
Well, he doesn't have to find her...that's the problem I have with your interpretation of the ending. It's too easy. He spent months traversing that star system - if the wormhole is there, he knows exactly where she is. It's just a quick cruise through the wormhole...not exactly dramatic. And if that's the case, then humanity is right behind him to set up shop.
As mentioned, I think the film subtextually reveals that the wormhole has closed, and I think Jonathan's comments regarding the wormhole are accurate (particularly given the fact that he preceded that discussion with the words, "So the idea with the film was...").
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Posted on 11/14/14 at 1:59 am to Cs
To me, if Cooper station is unable to go through the wormhole to Edmunds planet, the film is a total fail and a disgrace in ending... rant done
Posted on 11/14/14 at 2:00 am to Cs
Then how will he get there in that small ship?
ETA: And why the hell is Murph telling him to go?
ETA: And why the hell is Murph telling him to go?
This post was edited on 11/14/14 at 2:02 am
Posted on 11/14/14 at 2:04 am to abellsujr
quote:
Cooper will be there soon enough.
How without the wormhole?
Posted on 11/14/14 at 2:05 am to rebeloke
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Okay, but that is science fiction and not metaphysics. So now that we have established you are debating theatrical science and not theory based on actual theories within the scientific community, I'll let you return to your fun.
This is a thread discussing a science fiction film. I really don't think any more needs to be said.
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Now the ratio of water is absolutely irrelevant. Seriously that is not the point.
I don't think I ever mentioned anything having to do with the "ratio of water"...
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If time were so warped as to have a ratio of 7:1 to earth years it would require the planet to be close enough to the event horizon of the said blackhole to warp the thing called time. If that were the case the aforementioned planet would be destroyed.
That's nice, but again, we're discussing a science fiction film. The relativistic factor was 61,320 to 1, meaning every second on the water planet was 17 hours on Earth. Whether or not a planet could exist within such close proximity to a black hole is irrelevant to the discussion at hand.
Posted on 11/14/14 at 2:07 am to abellsujr
He is close enough for a one way trip. He can use the gravity from large planets to slingshot if necessary to conserve fuel.
Posted on 11/14/14 at 2:07 am to Byron Bojangles III
quote:Then why is Murph telling him to go?
How without the wormhole?
She must be on the good hospital grade shite. Posted on 11/14/14 at 2:09 am to abellsujr
frick I need to watch this movie again
Posted on 11/14/14 at 2:10 am to rebeloke
quote:How many years would that take him?
He can use the gravity from large planets to slingshot if necessary to conserve fuel.
Posted on 11/14/14 at 2:11 am to Byron Bojangles III
quote:Me too. I'm going tomorrow.
frick I need to watch this movie again
Posted on 11/14/14 at 2:12 am to abellsujr
quote:
Then how will he get there in that small ship?
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Nolan: By the end of Cooper's journey, the wormhole is gone. It's up to us now to undertake the massive journey of spreading out across the face of our galaxy. Brand is still somewhere out there on the far side of the wormhole. The wormhole has disappeared entirely. It's gone.
IGN: And he has to try and get to Brand in this little ship?
Nolan: That's the idea.
Posted on 11/14/14 at 2:15 am to Cs
quote:So how does he? Besides that slingshot nonsense.
Brand is still somewhere out there on the far side of the wormhole. The wormhole has disappeared entirely. It's gone.
IGN: And he has to try and get to Brand in this little ship?
Nolan: That's the idea.
Hmmmm........a wormhole he creates himself maybe?
This post was edited on 11/14/14 at 2:16 am
Posted on 11/14/14 at 2:17 am to abellsujr
I think I'm doing dumb and dumber tomorrow
Posted on 11/14/14 at 2:18 am to Byron Bojangles III
I'll be seeing that soon enough.
Posted on 11/14/14 at 2:20 am to Cs
Yeah but I am trying to discuss the theory of relativity. Just because it is science fiction doesn't mean it gets a pass for having unworkable theories, especially because it goes to great lengths to use scientific theory. And to the point: the ratio of time on the "water planet" is 1 hour equals 7 years on Earth. That is relevant to those who want to show this film is not using real science at all times. This film uses principles of science but takes great liberties with the adaptation of those theories, which you seem to love. I am okay with adaptation but I try to ground my interpetation of the film with an eye toward real theory. At no point do I find evidence for your interpetation of the 5th deminsional beings altering physics. Your logic is cyclical. Everything that can't be explained just defaults back to the 5th deminsional beings. I think therefore I am bra!
This post was edited on 11/14/14 at 2:23 am
Posted on 11/14/14 at 2:22 am to abellsujr
Like I mentioned earlier in the thread, he probably doesn't. Maybe he dies years later out in the abyss of deep space. Maybe he finds another nearby star system or planet. Again, though, venturing out into the unknown with no guarantees reinforces Cooper's character as well as one of the film's primary themes.
Assuming the wormhole was still open, though, why wouldn't have Brand been found already? Cooper Station had already been orbiting Saturn for clearly some time, and Edmunds' planet was just on the other side of the wormhole. Surely she would have been found before Cooper had ventured out had the wormhole remained open, no?
Assuming the wormhole was still open, though, why wouldn't have Brand been found already? Cooper Station had already been orbiting Saturn for clearly some time, and Edmunds' planet was just on the other side of the wormhole. Surely she would have been found before Cooper had ventured out had the wormhole remained open, no?
This post was edited on 11/14/14 at 2:34 am
Posted on 11/14/14 at 2:25 am to Cs
Now on that we can agree. 
Posted on 11/14/14 at 2:26 am to Cs
He opened it back up himself when he came back. Either that or he has the ability to now open it himself. That's why he took the robot with him. No other explanation.
ETA: I think they said activity began changing when he returned.
ETA: I think they said activity began changing when he returned.
This post was edited on 11/14/14 at 2:28 am
Posted on 11/14/14 at 2:28 am to abellsujr
abellsujr and Cs
This is what I'm seeing when y'all post
This is what I'm seeing when y'all post
Posted on 11/14/14 at 2:29 am to abellsujr
He came through the wormhole on his return. It never closed.
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