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re: The Leftovers ending..

Posted on 12/29/21 at 9:36 am to
Posted by bisceaux
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Posted on 12/29/21 at 9:36 am to
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She's lying, but Kevin accepts it as truth because of his love for her.
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Fwiw I think she was lying and didn't go to through but could change my mind on another watch
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and yes she definitely lied at the end. The show is about you not getting the answers you want for it to just provide at the end is no good.
Every time I explain this to my wife (who thinks she is definetely telling the truth), she says you just watched a show where 2% of the population disappeared, the main character continues to kill himself to become an international assassin in the afterlife, and then always proceeds to come back to life.

... but you can't wrap your head around there being a machine that takes you back and forth to the 2%?

No, I just can't
Posted by iwyLSUiwy
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Posted on 12/29/21 at 9:52 am to
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I still think the Season 2 finale is the best episode of the series.


If that episode doesnt blow you away, I dont know what TV could.


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Hell, the Season 1 finale is probably better and that's saying something.


The same could easily be said for Season 3 / Series Finale. Although more on an emotional level (no assassins or missles), it is gut-wrenching and powerful TV



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Was it the episode before the finale in season 2 where he was with the old man in the trailer at the end? Where Kevin was tied up and was expecting the old guy to pull him out of the tub after a minute or so. But as soon as Kevin goes in the old guy picks up a gun and blows his brains out. Then boom, the episode is over. My jaw was on the floor the 1st time watching it because that was a legit well wtf happens next moment.

Season 2 Episode 7 - "A Most Powerful Adversary" - That was such a wtf moment. My first watch was week to week so it was a tough week :)


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Let's also not forget the dialog between Laurie & Nora at the ending of Season 3 Episode 6 - Certified


Lets not forget about the season 2 opener. With the pregnant native american chick at the beginning that gets bit by the snake and the other lady comes in and picks it up and you're like wtf is this. Jump to present day and thats the same spot the gitls were swimming in the water.
Thats when Kevin and the gang first arrive in Miracle and at the end of the episode the earthquake happens and Erika goes missing.
Posted by bisceaux
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Posted on 12/29/21 at 1:12 pm to
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Lets not forget about the season 2 opener. With the pregnant native american chick at the beginning that gets bit by the snake and the other lady comes in and picks it up and you're like wtf is this.

Jump to present day and thats the same spot the gitls were swimming in the water. Thats when Kevin and the gang first arrive in Miracle and at the end of the episode the earthquake happens and Erika goes missing.
2nd season comes full circle - finale starts at the same spot on the night Erica faked her disappearance and Kevin jumps into the lake with a cinderblock tied to his ankle.

Why we love this show
Posted by iwyLSUiwy
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Posted on 12/29/21 at 1:37 pm to
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Why we love this show


This thread is about to make me watch it for the 4th time.

Maybe try and give some thought to Nora possibly lying.

Her and Justin Theroux were incredible in this, I dont see how they didnt get some bigger roles after this.
Posted by flvelo12
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Posted on 12/29/21 at 2:05 pm to
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This thread is about to make me watch it for the 4th time.

Yep!
Posted by bigfatpimp
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Posted on 12/29/21 at 2:15 pm to
Patti reciting Yeats before stabbing herself in the neck is one of the most powerful scenes I've seen in TV or movies.

Matt giving Mary a bath and putting her to bed...

Nora walking into the kitchen of dolls...

So many good scenes.
Posted by Wrenchruh
Parts Unknown
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 12/29/21 at 4:00 pm to
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Nora walking into the kitchen of dolls...


My God that scene. I have never experienced anything in TV or film that has hit me like that. I can barely think about it without starting to lose my shite.
Posted by bisceaux
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Member since Nov 2009
611 posts
Posted on 12/29/21 at 6:52 pm to
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Patti reciting Yeats before stabbing herself in the neck is one of the most powerful scenes I've seen in TV or movies.
This is probably the most shocking for me in a long list of shocking scenes. Just so unexpected since he was letting her go. Didn't see that coming. I feel a little more educated from this thread

He Bids His Beloved Be At Peace, William Butler Yeats, 1896
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Oh, vanity of sleep, hope, dream, endless desire, the horses of disaster plunge through the heavy Clay: Beloved, let your eyes half close and your heart beat over my heart and your hair fall over my breast, drowning love's lonely hour in deep twilight of rest... And hiding their tossing manes and tumultuous feet.

Posted by Tempratt
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Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 12/29/21 at 6:58 pm to
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It hit your emotions on such a deep level.


One thing that really shook me was When Nora was swearing at her daughter for making a mess and then she turned around. No chance to say she was sorry or hold her once more.

It really bothered me.
Posted by iwyLSUiwy
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Member since Apr 2008
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Posted on 12/29/21 at 11:20 pm to
Yea that's tough. That in itself would make it hard to go on.
Posted by bisceaux
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 12/30/21 at 7:16 am to
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One thing that really shook me was When Nora was swearing at her daughter for making a mess and then she turned around. No chance to say she was sorry or hold her once more.

It really bothered me.
Departure Scene

Nora Doll scene

I love that people have chopped up all these for us on YouTube. I know it gets said alot but Max Richter's music sets the emotional tone in this show.
Posted by flvelo12
Palm Harbor, Florida
Member since Jan 2012
3325 posts
Posted on 12/30/21 at 7:28 am to
I may be misremebering this, but the first time we hear Laurie speak with this scene gets to me. Along with so many countless others. Never been so emotionally wrapped up in a series. Time for another rewatch.

Kevin & Laurie Save Jill
Posted by bigfatpimp
st. gabriel
Member since Sep 2005
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Posted on 12/30/21 at 7:29 am to
Carrie Coon did get to play Proxima Midnight...
Posted by flvelo12
Palm Harbor, Florida
Member since Jan 2012
3325 posts
Posted on 12/30/21 at 7:31 am to
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Carrie Coon did get to play Proxima Midnight


And was lead in Season 3 of Fargo.
Posted by Tempratt
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Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 12/30/21 at 7:54 am to
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Carrie Coon


I found her to be very attractive.
Posted by bisceaux
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 12/30/21 at 8:15 am to
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Carrie Coon did get to play Proxima Midnight
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And was lead in Season 3 of Fargo.

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I found her to be very attractive.

Season 3 might be my favorite just because she was in it. Can we use the term CILF for Cop I'd like to ...
Posted by Gpfather
Member since Jan 2019
422 posts
Posted on 12/30/21 at 8:35 am to
I think Nora is definitely lying. Seems like every storyline of the show is about faith and how it affects people’s behavior. When Nora tells Kevin what happened in the pod, it’s a George Costanza-ish moment of “it’s not a lie, IF you believe it.” It’s as if she’s trying to convince herself she didn’t chicken out, in order to cope with the loss she’s still dealing with.

Regardless, top 3 series of all time for me!
Posted by bisceaux
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2009
611 posts
Posted on 12/30/21 at 8:42 am to
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I may be misremebering this, but the first time we hear Laurie speak with this scene gets to me. Along with so many countless others. Never been so emotionally wrapped up in a series. Time for another rewatch.

Kevin & Laurie Save Jill
I forgot how he just turns over each person as he goes through the burning house, sees they are not his daughter, and just turns them back over. He really isn't a good cop

Again, Max Richter with the score that is perfect for all settings
This post was edited on 12/30/21 at 8:51 am
Posted by YumYum Sauce
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Posted on 12/30/21 at 8:55 am to
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I think Nora is definitely lying.


Yeah Nora lies.


If she went through and found her fam, there's nothing about her character that would make sense for her to just come right back and raise pidgeons.
Posted by bisceaux
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2009
611 posts
Posted on 12/30/21 at 10:16 am to
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If she went through and found her fam, there's nothing about her character that would make sense for her to just come right back and raise pidgeons.
Yeah, living a solitude life raising pigeons was her way of hiding from the world because she was a coward and couldn't go through with it. She was ultimately hiding from Kevin all those years and had become his departed. He was continuing to look for her in Austrilia to make sense of it all. In the end, he told her that he believed her out of love and nothing else. The whole series is one big love story arc between Kevin & Nora.

The ending of Season 3 Episode 07 - The Most Powerful Man in the World (and His Identical Twin Brother) sums up their relationship. Kevin is in the assassin world and Patty has him read the last page of the novel he wrote. He (and his twin ) realizes he messed up with Nora and he doesn't want to come back to this world anymore:
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But it would be enough to make his escape. It wasn't for another hour when he was a mile from the docks that his thoughts turned back to her. He imagined her alone. By now, she would've searched the house and found it empty. She had suspected it all along, and now she knew he was a coward. A coward dressed in the uniform of a brave man. Brave enough to cross two oceans and a continent to find her, to fight countless enemies, and yet in the end, he was terrified. He was terrified of her... To lie beside her, to be comforted by her as he wept, to show her he was small, for her to know that and touch his cheek and whisper words softly into his ear. All of that was a nightmare. All he knew to do was run. He took a deep breath of the air, tasting the salt on his tongue, and closed his eyes, leaning into the spray as The Merciful picked up speed and sailed for the horizon. He was alone, and all was well.
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