re: The Joker cameo in The Dark Knight Rises

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Crane didn't kill off a major character or really affect the plot all that much. The Joker killing off Bane would do that though.

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Would much rather Joker kill off Bane than Catwoman ride in on the damn motorcycle and blow him away. That part pissed me off more than anything.

Having someone like Joker come in and kill off Bane would have been much better.

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Having someone like Joker come in and kill off Bane would have been much better.

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this

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The joker killing bane is no different than JGL walking on the platform in the batcave.

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Why is that? They built that one up from the very first film with Batman talking about his symbol becoming immortal. They built up to that moment from the start of the film. The Joker coming right the frick out of no where and killing off a major character is kinda the antithesis to that scene.

that was horrible

that was one scene they could do. the joker couldve been present earlier. just a lot harder for a fan to put together.

i think that wouldve worked a lot better. catwoman killing bane comes out of no where really. and is really forced. you just do away with such a bad arse, central character in the blink of an eye by her? no thanks.

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and that's just it. heath ledger is dead. not the joker. the character itself is still alive. so, with that being said, the joker's statement, "we're destined to do this forever." doesn't necessarily mean it will be just the joker vs bruce wayne. it will be the joker vs batman(the symbol). after all, we don't really know whether or not the joker knows batman's secret identity. that's why i say the joker coming in "saving" batman wouldn't be that much of a big deal as most might think.

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Dude, they spend the entire film building of JGL into being the next Batman. Joker popping the frick out of no where would have been retarded. What you are proposing isn't even remotely similar. Either have Joker as the antagonist, or don't use him.

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The point isn't killing Bane, but saving Batman and becoming selfless for once. She would very likely die if she turned around, but she knew that Batman and company could likely die without her help. Batman defeated Bane when he beat the crap out of him, and that's all that's really needed from it. I'm fine with Catwoman killing Bane for these reasons.

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This. Catwoman becoming selfless and willing to risk her life for the greater good is the entire point of her coming back to rescue Batman.

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you keep saying this. yet bane did the same to bats and was about to kill him. i wouldnt say bats won that.

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So you would have rather Bane killed a tied up and helpless Batman with a shotgun?

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use it to be the climax of her character development?

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but it wasn't really, imo. she kills him and then uses a cheesy line afterwards. now, if that didn't happen, and the joker saved batman, we wouldn't have had that awesome chase scene with the bat and the tumblers with catwoman sporting the batpod.

but for that one moment, you can't say that the joker coming through the gun smoke with that wicked theme song of his wouldn't have made jaws hit the floor. which goes back to what i said earlier. the joker states that he and batman are "destined to do this forever". do you think he would have let bane kill him if he really meant what he said?

all we're doing is really over analyzing a freaking youtube video. i loved the movie. probably more than anyone here. but the joker coming in probably would have been my first choice over catwoman saving batman. everything past that would have been void. how would batman have saved the day if it was done this way...