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re: The Devil Next Door-Ivan the Terrible SPOILERS

Posted on 11/5/19 at 4:56 pm to
Posted by TwoTimeTiger
Member since Aug 2019
729 posts
Posted on 11/5/19 at 4:56 pm to
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Just wait, it's coming here. It was already happening in Italy when my wife and I left.



We have an occasional acid throwing here.

That WR for the Texans, Hokpins, his mother is blind because someone threw acid in their face

We also have guns so we’ll probably just keep shooting each other.
Posted by Lawyered
The Sip
Member since Oct 2016
38336 posts
Posted on 11/5/19 at 4:59 pm to
I have no doubt.

It's hard for me to imagine a world where today everyone is internet reddit detectives looking up and researching it all

to back then where the only updates you had where the occasional news blurb.

my question, was this pretty straightforward or was there much bias as to what was presented ( such as in Making a murderer) ?
Posted by Rossberg02
Member since Jun 2016
2591 posts
Posted on 11/5/19 at 5:18 pm to
Only bias came from the attorneys and judges. The film makers let it play out very neutrally.
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
60453 posts
Posted on 11/8/19 at 5:49 pm to
Just finished. I hated how appalled half of these people were at the idea that you couldn't believe the eye witnesses.
Posted by Porter Osborne Jr
Member since Sep 2012
43743 posts
Posted on 11/11/19 at 8:06 pm to
I just finished. What a bunch of crazy twists and turns.
Posted by RabidTiger
Member since Nov 2009
3127 posts
Posted on 11/12/19 at 5:18 pm to
Oh man, I had a slow day today and watched this whole thing. I thought there was going to be a bunch of information I could read when it was done, but it seems like the doc. pretty much covered everything.

I do not understand people in here saying they feel bad for his family. If I found out my grandfather was an SS guard in a nazi death camp I would not defend him and endorse whatever consequences he had to face.

In the end though what do we really know? It seems it can be said with a high degree of certainty that he was a guard in Nazi death camps in Poland whether or not he was Ivan the Terrible.

I found his defiance and attitude during the trial in Israel suggestive of guilt. If one was really innocent they would have been distressed by this ordeal. He showed no emotion and acted like the whole thing was a game.
Posted by Porter Osborne Jr
Member since Sep 2012
43743 posts
Posted on 11/12/19 at 7:57 pm to
I don't know man. If it it was my father who was loving I would probably be in doubt too and only want to remember him in that way.

I don't think he's Ivan the Terrible but he was most likely a prison guard. Thought maybe his 7 years in Israel might have served as his time for the German prison.
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