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re: Survivor Season 46 thread
Posted on 5/22/24 at 10:13 pm to ColonelAngus
Posted on 5/22/24 at 10:13 pm to ColonelAngus
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Liz has no self awareness.
Overstatement of the season.
She was my least favorite player in maybe the entire history of the show.
Charlie should have pushed hard to make fire against Kenzie.
Posted on 5/22/24 at 10:15 pm to AkronTiger
quote:
Also, Liz helping Kenzie was the worst thing I’ve ever seen in Survivor, in a year when Q was asking people to vote for him.
That's the point... it's a "microcosm of society" like they say so teaming up is absolutely on the table and it worked.
Posted on 5/22/24 at 10:23 pm to ColonelAngus
quote:
Liz has no self awareness.
It was hard to believe she was so out of touch to be convinced she would have won if she got in front of the jury. She said multiple times she was already a millionaire but was brought to tears and anger when she got the boot.
Ben never had a chance. Charlie is going to use his Harvard education to make millions and will look back at the game as a fun adventure. The money will change Kenzie’s life but did her game play deserve the win over Charlie?
Posted on 5/22/24 at 10:53 pm to BobABooey
Maria voting for Kenzie felt despicable to me. I'd probably never talk to her again if I was Charlie.
Posted on 5/23/24 at 8:11 am to LSUBoo
quote:
Charlie should have pushed hard to make fire against Kenzie.
I hate this. The fire challenge shouldn’t exist. For it to affect Maria’s vote is next level abhorrent.
Posted on 5/23/24 at 8:12 am to DestrehanTiger
Disappointing ending to an otherwise great season.
Liz is legit crazy. And her helping Kenzie should be seen as cheating.
Venus was never going to vote for a man to win. Unless there were 3 men at the end. Her whole game was "get the men out".
Q and Maria voting for Kenzie is just sad.
Maria was just bitter that Charlie beat her. " when i saw the fire in her eyes" she was literally crying during the fire making.
Q, i like her story better. where does story fit in the Outlast, Outwit, Outplay theme?
Tiff all but said during the pre vote segment that she was voting for Kenzie so, final tribal meant nothing.
Liz voting for Charlie after helping Kenzie win a challenge was surprising.
Charlie got robbed. And Jeff pointing out that he looked mad/sad/ whatever after the vote. Was he supposed to be happy?
Liz is legit crazy. And her helping Kenzie should be seen as cheating.
Venus was never going to vote for a man to win. Unless there were 3 men at the end. Her whole game was "get the men out".
Q and Maria voting for Kenzie is just sad.
Maria was just bitter that Charlie beat her. " when i saw the fire in her eyes" she was literally crying during the fire making.
Q, i like her story better. where does story fit in the Outlast, Outwit, Outplay theme?
Tiff all but said during the pre vote segment that she was voting for Kenzie so, final tribal meant nothing.
Liz voting for Charlie after helping Kenzie win a challenge was surprising.
Charlie got robbed. And Jeff pointing out that he looked mad/sad/ whatever after the vote. Was he supposed to be happy?
Posted on 5/23/24 at 8:22 am to MorbidTheClown
im trying not to exaggerate in the moment, but maria voting for kenzie is one of the most disgusting things ive ever seen in the history of the game. just complete delusion/bitterness and penalizing a player who worked with you and got you out respectfully and fairly (after you tried to get him out nastily and poorly done).
completely insane and ruins the season for me.
sucks because kenzie was fine, i suppose, and if the votes fell differently and she still won, i dont think id care that much.
completely insane and ruins the season for me.
sucks because kenzie was fine, i suppose, and if the votes fell differently and she still won, i dont think id care that much.
Posted on 5/23/24 at 8:30 am to DestrehanTiger
The Q not playing his idol was bad for the game; until Ben won the immunity. Ben screwed everything up. He should have realized he couldn't beat either Kenzie or Charlie, so you put them against each other in fire or you try the fire challenge.
He basically gave Kenzie what she needed to win. Her, Ben and Liz were essentially carried along the whole game, and they and the jury admitted it.
I think Maria pissed off so many people that if she goes up against Charlie in the final she loses. She beats everyone else. She may have been Charlie's only shot to win the jury.
I think he lost to Kenzie because he was looked at as Maria's tag along. If he goes against the girls, it is expected he would win the fire. He would then need to explain his game more. Fire may have been the only way he or Ben had a shot against Kenzie.
I kept telling my wife, Charlie really needs to go against Kenzie. Beat her and then no one is voting Liz and Ben over Charlie. He could have convinced Ben to do that. Charlie had an exaggerated view of his game as well. He was looked at as a pawn most of the game. If you look back at it, Kenzie saved herself from the bottom and won some challenges. The jury viewed her as an equal to Charlie.
He basically gave Kenzie what she needed to win. Her, Ben and Liz were essentially carried along the whole game, and they and the jury admitted it.
I think Maria pissed off so many people that if she goes up against Charlie in the final she loses. She beats everyone else. She may have been Charlie's only shot to win the jury.
I think he lost to Kenzie because he was looked at as Maria's tag along. If he goes against the girls, it is expected he would win the fire. He would then need to explain his game more. Fire may have been the only way he or Ben had a shot against Kenzie.
I kept telling my wife, Charlie really needs to go against Kenzie. Beat her and then no one is voting Liz and Ben over Charlie. He could have convinced Ben to do that. Charlie had an exaggerated view of his game as well. He was looked at as a pawn most of the game. If you look back at it, Kenzie saved herself from the bottom and won some challenges. The jury viewed her as an equal to Charlie.
Posted on 5/23/24 at 8:46 am to MorbidTheClown
quote:Jeff's out of touch. And has been for a long time.
And Jeff pointing out that he looked mad/sad/ whatever after the vote. Was he supposed to be happy?
Posted on 5/23/24 at 8:53 am to Tigers4Lyfe
jeff has become aggravating as frick
Posted on 5/23/24 at 9:05 am to tiger94gop
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Charlie had an exaggerated view of his game as well. He was looked at as a pawn most of the game. If you look back at it, Kenzie saved herself from the bottom and won some challenges. The jury viewed her as an equal to Charlie.
Ben’s interview on the Probst podcast was good. He said if the final vote was tied and he had to cast the tiebreaker, he would have voted for Charlie. He went on to give a better recap of Charlie’s game than Charlie gave at Final Tribal. Ben acknowledged Kenzie’s compassion and humanity but valued loyalty over that.
Charlie was gracious in his interview but said it was “brutal” to learn Maria voted for Kenzie, especially since Maria promised to vote for Charlie if she was on the jury.
Kenzie endured the awful first 11 days without fire and had to babysit Banhu so I don’t think she was totally undeserving. Also, she’s married and pregnant now so I wish her well.
Everyone talks about what a great player Maria was but she blew the endgame and was lining up to make the cowardly move of taking Q to Final Tribal with her. She was bitter at getting outplayed and felt entitled.
Charlie will live a good life and that will soothe his wounds.
Posted on 5/23/24 at 9:22 am to BobABooey
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Everyone talks about what a great player Maria was but she blew the endgame and was lining up to make the cowardly move of taking Q to Final Tribal with her. She was bitter at getting outplayed and felt entitled.
I don't know if a player has ever fallen farther in my eyes. I thought she had a great game, then the last 3 episodes she made so many mistakes. Most were due to her being a complete coward.
1. She didn't own up to picking people for the reward challenge and put it on the others.
2. She didn't convince Q to play his idol to make the move to get Charlie completely inevitable.
3. She blamed everyone else for going at Charlie instead of owning it.
4. Instead of trying one last valiant effort to go at Charlie, she tries to convince people that Ben is a big target.
Then, as someone else pointed out, she said she voted for Kenzie because of the fire in her eyes during fire, yet Kenzie was completely lost in fire making. She was losing it and only won because she was going against a person that would've been thrown off a cliff in ancient Sparta when she was born.
It's really a shame because I think Kenzie was great and a deserving winner. It just boils my blood how it happened. Charlie was excellent at controlling his emotions and working with anyone and everyone. After the final vote, the game was over. I wish he would've called her out more than he did.
Posted on 5/23/24 at 9:26 am to DestrehanTiger
Also, I want to chime in on the final challenge. I don't know if it is a gender thing, but my wife was ok with it while everyone on here seems to be aligned with me. I guess I don't blame Liz for what she did. I mostly blame Jeff. She should not be allowed to do that. Would they let Liz push from behind Kenzie in the mud net to help her through? I doubt it.
My wife argued that Liz was out of it so it made sense. However, Liz could have easily read Kenzie's puzzle, counted her own puzzle pieces, then tried to get a range for the geckos, then gone to look at her own plank. It wasn't out of the question.
Again, just a few things that left a bad taste in my mouth in what was a good season.
My wife argued that Liz was out of it so it made sense. However, Liz could have easily read Kenzie's puzzle, counted her own puzzle pieces, then tried to get a range for the geckos, then gone to look at her own plank. It wasn't out of the question.
Again, just a few things that left a bad taste in my mouth in what was a good season.
Posted on 5/23/24 at 9:38 am to DestrehanTiger
They need to rethink how they approach challenges. The fact that it is legal to look over at what your neighbor is doing in puzzle challenges, etc. totally takes away the spirit of the challenge in and of itself.
Posted on 5/23/24 at 9:58 am to Tigers4Lyfe
need to have walls like they do sometimes in Big Brother where you can't see what the others are doing.
Posted on 5/23/24 at 10:23 am to MorbidTheClown
I figured the fire making challenge would cost Kenzie votes, that was pitiful
Posted on 5/23/24 at 10:38 am to AkronTiger
she won the challenge because she went up against someone who is as incompetent as they are crazy.
Posted on 5/23/24 at 11:17 am to DestrehanTiger
im torn on that challenge. i think it could be and kind of was compelling to team up against someone. the game is all about alliances and social play, and that seems like it could be part of it.
is the individual challenge supposed to be 100% individual or not? they've had them before where you can go after one person by chopping their rope or some shite when you get a question right and people team up to get somebody out. is that different?
i think it just depends on your interpretation of what the immunity challenge is supposed to be. i think i would be 100% fine if they had a rule that said no aid or assistance from another player was allowed. i think i would also be 100% fine if they said that anything goes.
is the individual challenge supposed to be 100% individual or not? they've had them before where you can go after one person by chopping their rope or some shite when you get a question right and people team up to get somebody out. is that different?
i think it just depends on your interpretation of what the immunity challenge is supposed to be. i think i would be 100% fine if they had a rule that said no aid or assistance from another player was allowed. i think i would also be 100% fine if they said that anything goes.
This post was edited on 5/23/24 at 11:18 am
Posted on 5/23/24 at 11:36 am to rockchlkjayhku11
I just think it only helped Kenzie and not Liz, seeing as from a viewer perspective Liz was an entirely uncompetitive player anyways and didn’t have anything to gain.
This post was edited on 5/23/24 at 11:40 am
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