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re: Survivor season 36 Ghost Island
Posted on 5/25/18 at 9:19 am to The Spleen
Posted on 5/25/18 at 9:19 am to The Spleen
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I can see thinking Dom played a better game, but I don't think the separation between him and Wendell was that wide.
Dom also had an amazing 6th sense about when someone was bullshitting him or telling the truth. Even without help from Laurel or Angela he seemed to always have a good idea of what was going on at all times.
Wendell definitely played the better social game. He obviously connected a lot better with the rest of the people that went out late.
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Posted on 5/25/18 at 9:29 am to Eighteen
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Would be better to add the third place person to the jury and make them all revote. Same result, but then you don’t know who could potentially switch their vote and make it more dramatic
that is a solid idea
Posted on 5/25/18 at 9:29 am to LSUBoo
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Dom also had an amazing 6th sense about when someone was bullshitting him or telling the truth. Even without help from Laurel or Angela he seemed to always have a good idea of what was going on at all times.
For sure. I don't think either one gets to the finals without the other.
Posted on 5/25/18 at 10:30 am to The Spleen
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but I don't think the separation between him and Wendell was that wide. Dom was just more demonstrative and brash with his game, while Wendell was more subdued.
Possibly
But if that were the case I would think Wendell would have given better examples at the final tribal when he was asked what big moves he made.
Reminds me of Survivor All-Stars when Rob made all the moves but they gave it to Amber because she didn't piss anyone off.
Posted on 5/25/18 at 10:41 am to The Spleen
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I can see thinking Dom played a better game, but I don't think the separation between him and Wendell was that wide.
Agreed. I was very surprised while catching up on this thread that so many people thought Dom was way better. I thought Laurel put it perfectly. They were really partners in the whole thing. There wasn't much separating both of them. The only difference was she was closer to Wendell. I can't fault her for that.
I think both had really impressive traits that stuck out. As others have mentioned, Dom was very good at reading people. Wendell's stoicism during challenges was also very impressive. He was cool as a cucumber for everything. I would have been more than fine with either of them winning.
I think Dom made the right decision in the end. Yeah, in hindsight, he had a better shot at beating Wendell in fire building than having Laurel vote for him. But, if Seabass drinks one less beer before final tribal, maybe he votes for Dom. If he does the fire challenge vs Wendell and loses, which he probably would have, then everyone is calling him an idiot. At least with this result, he will probably earn a spot in a future season. I would really like to watch him play again.
Last thing. Someone else brought this up earlier. Can we get an explanation on why Seabass didn't use his advantage at all? It doesn't make any sense. So, you realize it won't work voting twice on Dom, so you don't use the advantage at all? What are you saving it for?
This post was edited on 5/25/18 at 10:44 am
Posted on 5/25/18 at 10:42 am to geauxtigahs87
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But if that were the case I would think Wendell would have given better examples at the final tribal when he was asked what big moves he made.
I was surprised at how poorly Wendell did in the final tribal. Dom seemed to win the arguments. That might go to show you that people had their mind made up already. Or, it could mean that Wendell was going to be the clear cut winner , but Dom pulled some votes his way due to the final tribal.
Posted on 5/25/18 at 10:46 am to geauxtigahs87
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But if that were the case I would think Wendell would have given better examples at the final tribal when he was asked what big moves he made.
Fair point. I did think Wendell had talked himself out of the win during the final tribal. He just didn't sell his game well at all.
I do think Dom played a better game, but only slightly. They both had a strong case for winning.
Posted on 5/25/18 at 11:33 am to DestrehanTiger
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Can we get an explanation on why Seabass didn't use his advantage at all? It doesn't make any sense. So, you realize it won't work voting twice on Dom, so you don't use the advantage at all? What are you saving it for?
From the article linked on the last page...
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You didn’t even bother using your extra vote. Why not?
Yeah, at one point in that Tribal, as soon as I heard that the cat was out of the bag and I admitted I had the vote and Dom played his fake idol, I was like, “Okay, well, in my opinion, we were still voting for Donathan because that’s what I had spoken to Dom about and Wendell. So if I vote with them, then I’m still on their good side and I can still hopefully be a part of the majority and probably knock Laurel or Angela out.” Which is what we had talked about, and they don’t show that on TV, but we had talked about taking the big 3 to the final 3 because I think they could have beat me, or they probably thought they could have beat me, but you never know when you get to the final 3. It just didn’t work out in my favor.
Posted on 5/25/18 at 11:45 am to LSUBoo
But he still didn't use his extra vote. Am I missing something? When he knew going after Dom was a lost cause, couldn't he have voted twice for Donathan? I don't even remember if it would have mattered, but at least an attempt would have been made. Also, if I remember correctly, this was the last tribal he could use his advantage.
Posted on 5/25/18 at 11:51 am to DestrehanTiger
I think the only explanation is Sebastian is dumb.
Posted on 5/25/18 at 11:59 am to DestrehanTiger
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But he still didn't use his extra vote. Am I missing something? When he knew going after Dom was a lost cause, couldn't he have voted twice for Donathan?
Yes, he just didn't think he needed to.
So yeah, the real explanation is that he is dumb.
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I don't even remember if it would have mattered
No, it was 4 for Sebastian, one for Domenick, one for Donathan. So either way the extra vote went, it wasn't enough.
Posted on 5/25/18 at 12:27 pm to The Spleen
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I think the only explanation is Sebastian is dumb
Yep, they kept saying all season certain idols, advantages were cursed....no the people were stupid.
Posted on 5/25/18 at 12:54 pm to The Spleen
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I did think Wendell had talked himself out of the win during the final tribal. He just didn't sell his game well at all.
Not only that, but everything he said got shot down with a quickness by Dom.
Wendell tried to say he was the mastermind, Dom laughed and got half the jury to admit Dom came to them. Wendall tries to up-play how he helped around camp, Dom says something similar to "My game was more than just building furniture"
Posted on 5/25/18 at 1:53 pm to bcoop199
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Yep, they kept saying all season certain idols, advantages were cursed
I was glad that Jeff made the comment that some thought the Ghost Island theme was cheesy because that was all it accomplished. I couldn't believe how many times he asked people if they believed the curses. I wish one person would have just said, no this is all retarded.
I had to pause the show when they made this big moment about Dom having to pick which urn they used to hold the votes. It was just such a terrible idea. I'm guessing they insisted on Dom using some actual explanation for why he chose it. He should have just said, "I didn't care about all that nonsense, this one just looked the coolest."
Posted on 5/25/18 at 2:00 pm to DestrehanTiger
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I had to pause the show when they made this big moment about Dom having to pick which urn they used to hold the votes
That was so bad.
"This is a huge decision.."
No, Dom. No it's really not. It's really cheesy and pointless.
Posted on 5/26/18 at 12:29 pm to LSUBoo
Sebastian was an absolute moron.
The idiot people I could't stand all season all voted for Wendell, while the people who were not so emotional about being kicked off and actually voted based on game play all voted for Dom, who should have won easily. Of course Laurel was going to vote for Wendell. That was awful.
What a horrendous and uneventful season that ended with the wrong winner. And I didn't even like Dom, but I respected his game play.
The idiot people I could't stand all season all voted for Wendell, while the people who were not so emotional about being kicked off and actually voted based on game play all voted for Dom, who should have won easily. Of course Laurel was going to vote for Wendell. That was awful.
What a horrendous and uneventful season that ended with the wrong winner. And I didn't even like Dom, but I respected his game play.
Posted on 5/26/18 at 1:18 pm to AstroTiger
It was the most boring season in a while. Everyone will point to one tribe being just completely uncompetitive in the game and getting mercilessly annihilated - which is terrible for trying to create any dramatic tension - but there was stuff going on and even whole friendships that they ignored in the edit because they had to spend time on the complete failure waste disaster that was the Ghost Island twist. That said, at least a few of the girls were hot unlike the last couple of seasons where maybe one in the whole cast was attractive.
This post was edited on 5/26/18 at 1:19 pm
Posted on 5/27/18 at 11:17 am to AstroTiger
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The idiot people I could't stand all season all voted for Wendell, while the people who were not so emotional about being kicked off and actually voted based on game play all voted for Dom, who should have won easily. Of course Laurel was going to vote for Wendell. That was awful.
You are not giving nearly enough credit to Wendell. It's not like when Russell dragged that girl to the final, and everyone voted for her because they hated Russell. Wendell did a lot of things well. The two of them callobarared the entire season about what they were going to do. Wendell was better in challenges. And people can discount it all they like, but he was a big asset at camp. I do think Dom probably deserved it a little more, but it was extremely close.
This post was edited on 5/27/18 at 11:18 am
Posted on 5/27/18 at 12:38 pm to Cooter Davenport
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Everyone will point to one tribe being just completely uncompetitive in the game and getting mercilessly annihilated
Wasn't really the case though. Naviti had a challenge beast in Chris for the 1st two tribals and then Mololo got swap fricked at every turn after that. Mololo never really had the numbers to make anything happen after day 6.
Naviti strong and freaking Yanni is what killed any hope for an interesting post merge
This post was edited on 5/27/18 at 12:40 pm
Posted on 5/28/18 at 8:38 am to Wolf
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Wolf
I am amazed that you can remember why the tribe names are and who was on what tribe with all the switches. When Wende was scared of being in the purple spot, it took me a second to figure it out. Maybe I am just not paying attention enough, but I never remember who was on what tribe and the names of the tribes when they switch it up so early.
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