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re: Star Wars: TFA -Official Discussion Thread - Spoilers
Posted on 12/29/15 at 12:54 pm to terd ferguson
Posted on 12/29/15 at 12:54 pm to terd ferguson
While true I just don't think he is a sith.
No proof right now one way or the other.
Maz's line about the dark side taking many forms and using sith in past tense makes me think this. Could be wrong
No proof right now one way or the other.
Maz's line about the dark side taking many forms and using sith in past tense makes me think this. Could be wrong
This post was edited on 12/29/15 at 1:11 pm
Posted on 12/29/15 at 1:07 pm to terd ferguson
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Where else would a Sith Lord come from in the years prior to Vader and Palpatine's deaths?
I don't think he's a Sith lord.
Posted on 12/29/15 at 1:10 pm to Rhames
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While true I just don't think he is a sith.
I think he's a sith. It's the main plot of the entire SW story... light vs dark/Jedi vs Sith
I'm thinking that either Palpatine was thinking of replacing Vader and had another apprentice in the wings (which Sith Lords have done many times in the past) or Vader was thinking that it was close to his time to take over as Master and had an apprentice lined up. That apprentice (either Palpatine's or Vader's) became the Master when they both died unexpectedly. Now he has taken on Kylo Ren as apprentice to carry on the Rule of Two.
Posted on 12/29/15 at 1:12 pm to pvilleguru
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I don't think he's a Sith lord.
For you guys thinking he's not a Sith what/who do you think he is? I'm curious as to other theories. I don't recall anyone ever describing "other forms" of the dark side.
Posted on 12/29/15 at 1:26 pm to terd ferguson
Maybe something we haven't been introduced to yet. JJ said kylo wasn't a sith.
Also I think snoke is supposed to be super old.
So don't think he was a secret apprentice to palps
Also I think snoke is supposed to be super old.
So don't think he was a secret apprentice to palps
Posted on 12/29/15 at 1:31 pm to Rhames
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Also I think snoke is supposed to be super old.
OMG SNOKE IS BANE!!1!!
Posted on 12/29/15 at 1:32 pm to terd ferguson
Not sure yet. I've toyed with the idea that he is a version of Palptaine, but it doesn't really hold up right now. Plageuis did teach him everything he knew, so maybe he found a way to do it (i mean he was going to teach Anakin how to keep Padme from dying). However, this theory isn't any more plausible than the current one.
Hard to say. Plageuis is as good a guess as any right now, though, as we frankly just don't know much.
Hard to say. Plageuis is as good a guess as any right now, though, as we frankly just don't know much.
Posted on 12/29/15 at 1:33 pm to Rhames
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Maybe something we haven't been introduced to yet. JJ said kylo wasn't a sith.
JJ also said Snoke is a new character to the universe. Now, does that mean his entire character is new or just his identity as "Snoke" is new? Only time will tell.
Posted on 12/29/15 at 1:46 pm to Rhames
That one about the redemption of Anakin was interesting.
Posted on 12/29/15 at 1:47 pm to terd ferguson
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For you guys thinking he's not a Sith what/who do you think he is? I'm curious as to other theories. I don't recall anyone ever describing "other forms" of the dark side.
I think the Sith died out with Palpatine and Vader. I like the idea of their not being a light or dark side of the force. It just depends on who is using it. I don't have a name for what Snoke might be, but he could be someone that has just been in the shadows for a long time, watching things play out. With the Sith destroyed and just an aging Luke left, he feels his time is now. He's recruited the top young force user that he knew about. I'm interested to see if the rest of this Knights of Ren belong to him as well.
Posted on 12/29/15 at 1:53 pm to pvilleguru
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like the idea of their not being a light or dark side of the force.
This idea I can't stand. It completely destroys the long held position that you can be seduced by the Dark Side of the force. Yes, some are more susceptible than others, but the dark and light side of the force call to each force user (Ren even mentioned this)
Posted on 12/29/15 at 1:56 pm to GoCrazyAuburn
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Yes, some are more susceptible than others, but the dark and light side of the force call to each force user (Ren even mentioned this)
It's basically called "having a conscience".
Posted on 12/29/15 at 1:59 pm to GoCrazyAuburn
There is definitely a light and a dark side
Maz uses the light side of the force and isn't a jedi
I think it is ok for others to use the dark side and not be sith
Maz uses the light side of the force and isn't a jedi
I think it is ok for others to use the dark side and not be sith
Posted on 12/29/15 at 2:02 pm to GoCrazyAuburn
Not to mention all that "you don't understand the power of the dark side" stuff. It takes hold of everyone that enters into it.
It also completely throws out the whole bringing balance to the force thing...
It also completely throws out the whole bringing balance to the force thing...
Posted on 12/29/15 at 2:04 pm to Rhames
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Maz uses the light side of the force and isn't a jedi
I don't know if she actually uses it per say, but she is definitely knowledgeable of it. I think she can understand it. she is somewhere in between being force sensitive and not.
Posted on 12/29/15 at 2:06 pm to terd ferguson
Yea, all of that
With those deleted scenes that were posted (may be in the Snoke thread), it will be interesting to see where they take Snoke. He is very old and witnessed everything that went down from the previous 6 movies. He couldn't have been completely absent from it all, I mean somehow his face caved in on one side and seemed to be horribly burnt
With those deleted scenes that were posted (may be in the Snoke thread), it will be interesting to see where they take Snoke. He is very old and witnessed everything that went down from the previous 6 movies. He couldn't have been completely absent from it all, I mean somehow his face caved in on one side and seemed to be horribly burnt
Posted on 12/29/15 at 2:06 pm to GoCrazyAuburn
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I don't know if she actually uses it per say, but she is definitely knowledgeable of it. I think she can understand it. she is somewhere in between being force sensitive and not.
Same with Lor San Tekka
Posted on 12/29/15 at 2:08 pm to terd ferguson
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Not to mention all that "you don't understand the power of the dark side" stuff. It takes hold of everyone that enters into it.
Well, you wouldn't understand what you can do until you are motivated by hate, fear, anger, etc.
This post was edited on 12/29/15 at 2:09 pm
Posted on 12/29/15 at 2:09 pm to GoCrazyAuburn
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witnessed everything that went down from the previous 6 movies
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He couldn't have been completely absent from it all
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his face caved in on one side and seemed to be horribly burnt

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