re: Star Wars plothole going into Last Jedi

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WTF Ben, you told me this was over".

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What I told you was true, from a certain point.




Anyway, Luke says he’s felt that power once before and wasn’t scared but he is now.

Trust me, Luke was fricking scared the minute that old dude shot lightning from his fingers.

watch and stop nitpicking.

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Not just the force stuff, but she had a weird natural knowledge of mechanical stuff and how to fly the Falcon.

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Even though it is set in the distant past, they're more technologically advanced than we are.

With more advanced technology typically comes machines that are easier to use and more intuitive.

Did you have to be taught how to drive a jet ski or a four wheeler when you were a kid? I know I didn't really have to learn how to use them. I just sort of hopped on and had at it.

As such, I'm not really surprised that Rey was able to pilot a starship without specific training.

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Did you have to be taught how to drive a jet ski or a four wheeler when you were a kid? I know I didn't really have to learn how to use them. I just sort of hopped on and had at it.

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Regarding that, you only go forward and turn. Up and down is a different animal entirely. I can probably go buy a drone and turn it on, and make it fly around a little. I don't think I'm going to swoop around and dive near the ground without crashing, nor do I think I can navigate a tight obstacle course at full speed (inside the wrecked Star Destroyer while being chased by a Tie Fighter) and not bang into something, the first time I do it.

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We know why Senator Organa took care of Leah, but what was Owen’s connection? They never showed Anakin or his mother having any siblings. Was Owen just some guy or was he a blood relative of Luke?

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Some guy really. Owen and Anakin’s relationship was a real fault of the prequel trilogy. I mean how ridiculous is this phrase now that you’ve seen the prequels?

“He has too much of his father in him.”
“....You mean the guy who stopped in for a day, murdered women and children, went on a psychotic rant, and then stole our prodical droid? I sure as frick hope he isn’t anything like his father.”

You could be right but I'm pretty sure he is talking about Ben(kylo ren) when he said he wasn't scared of the raw power but is now (Rey has the same power).

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Owen and Anakin’s relationship was a real fault of the prequel trilogy. I mean how ridiculous is this phrase now that you’ve seen the prequels?

“He has too much of his father in him.”
“....You mean the guy who stopped in for a day, murdered women and children, went on a psychotic rant, and then stole our prodical droid? I sure as frick hope he isn’t anything like his father.”

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Pretty sure Shmi would have spoke lovingly of her son, the kid who was a natural at fixing things, was bold and fearless, was able to win a fairly major pod race as a pre-teen (which Ep 1 established as a big deal on Tatooine), and went off to become a Jedi. Without insulting her stepson, she probably told Owen that he was a fine farmer... but that Anakin was too adventurous to ever settle down like that.

If Shmi told the Lars that Anakin built C3P0 from scrap, as she probably would have ("where'd a slave get a sentient protocol droid?" "oh, my son built him from scrap when he was not yet 12, little Annie was just so gifted..."), giving him the droid back when he showed up would be a natural act. Especially in light of the fact that he showed up to see his mom, and she got kidnapped and killed right beforehand; "son, we have little to give you for your sorrow. But you made this droid, it's yours... and it was around your mother for the last 10 years. It can tell you so much more than I ever could of her, since it has photographic memory. Take it, it's the least we can do"

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I can’t remember, but did Organa mention that he had a wife in ROTS? If she also died young, it would explain Leah’s memories of her mother. I don’t remember anything specifically, but I don’t really care much for the prequels and haven’t rewatched them in a long time.

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Yes, I just watched it the other day. Bail had a wife. He said specifically that they had discussed adopting a daughter (sounded like an altruistic thing to do).

Hell, the way it went, Organa put the claim in on Leia as soon as the kids' fates were up in the air, and said his wife wanted to adopt a daughter. Almost like he was covering his arse at home:

Yes honey, they just dissolved the Republic and formed the Empire under the rule of a giant toad, and all the Jedi got massacred. My leadership hasn't gone very well, we're now a dictatorship...
oooh look what I got you. A little girl!

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So, you’re saying he f$&ked her sister, but he went to Jared?

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Well, don't know about fricking her sister, but Organa definitely handled his business like a champ.

He came out of this smelling like a rose. Still in the Senate, still in power. The remaining Jedi now owe him a debt, if he ever needs to call it in. In fact, he knows where both Yoda and Kenobi are.
He gets to bring his wife an adopted daughter that they can raise, so she can have a kid without having to go through labor and stretchmarks

If the politics calm down, you can run a little DNA testing and prove Leia's the daughter of Naboo's favorite queen, and land some good deals with them too. It's interesting that the Naboo have Queens (not kings), and that Organa instantly chose the girl, not the boy.

Had his daughter not screwed things up and gotten openly militant (and in the process got him blown up), I figure Organa is still pretty near the top of the Galactic government, running the opposition safely, and angling to take over after Palpatine, one way or another. He managed to stay off Palpatine's radar until the end (notice that they set up the other, female Senator as head of the rebellion), although I don't doubt he was marked for removal at some point.

As smooth as he played things, it wouldn't be a surprise if he's anonymously retired out on the lakes in Naboo, with a hot young squeeze.
Consider Rogue One- I'm sure he meant well being involved with the Rebellion, but when the archive planet got blown up and the Fleet mobilized, he probably figured it was time to go "negotiate" something with Jar Jar, and lay low until the heat was off.

Hmmm, I never thought of this before, but googling, it seems someone has:



Similar facial structure, and the eyes match. The Rebellion damn near got him killed and ruined his political aspirations. Leia was the adopted daughter who brought this about, not his flesh and blood. If the Jedi hadn't gone overboard, he might be running the Republic today, instead of it being extinct.