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re: Star Wars Phantom Menace Destroyed

Posted on 12/22/09 at 2:00 am to
Posted by NOSA
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Posted on 12/22/09 at 2:00 am to
Man the part that shows Lucas and the other guys right after the rough cut screening is just fantastic.
Posted by NOSA
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Posted on 12/22/09 at 2:00 am to
Double post
This post was edited on 12/22/09 at 2:01 am
Posted by SPEEDY
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Posted on 12/22/09 at 6:58 am to
I cant wait for his Avatar review
Posted by SpqrTiger
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Posted on 12/22/09 at 7:16 am to
quote:

like how everything was shot in front of green screens so the actors never were part of their environment so they never acted with it


This is a pet peeve of mine that he stated really simply and effectively in the review. He said the movie "lacked grit." And it's true. That's why I can't stand CGI environments and some CGI characters. It's all too clean and neat. No matter how sophisticated they make CGI, you can still tell the difference. I know there are some shots you just can't pull off without it, but there's something about looking at Lucas filming in Tunisia for the original Star Wars, and then seeing him in his "movie laboratory" filming Phantom Menace that really drives this home.

By the way, "Phantom Menace" is really a dumb title for the movie. So is "Attack of the Clones." Does a 7 year old name these movies?
Posted by SPEEDY
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Posted on 12/22/09 at 7:44 am to
quote:

By the way, "Phantom Menace" is really a dumb title for the movie. So is "Attack of the Clones." Does a 7 year old name these movies?


well like he stated in his review, the Star Wars movies began sucking once Lucas was given full control of the franchise.


Just look at some of the examples of things Lucas wanted to do with New Hope but he was thankfully denied by movie execs
Posted by ChicagoTiger
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Member since Feb 2007
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Posted on 12/22/09 at 7:48 am to
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Just look at some of the examples of things Lucas wanted to do with New Hope but he was thankfully denied by movie execs


Probably the one time Movie Execs knew what they were talking about
Posted by MSTiger33
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Posted on 12/22/09 at 3:01 pm to
I watched it twice
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 3/13/10 at 10:08 pm to
He said that Attack of the Clones review is going to be even longer than than the Phantom Menace one, which is good, because it is a much more flawed movie than PM is (I know thats hard to believe, but its true).

LINK
Posted by MSTiger33
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 3/13/10 at 10:18 pm to


My gf and I checked the update this morning. We are jonesing for the new review.
Posted by ISDSTiger
Member since Sep 2006
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Posted on 3/14/10 at 11:22 am to
i checked yesterday too


the avatar teaser was ok but didnt have much substance
Posted by Scoop
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Posted on 3/14/10 at 12:25 pm to
The best observation he made was how the Jedi landed on Naboo hiding in a droid drop ship, quickly find the gungan lair where they are told the naboo surface city was on the other side of the planet.

So why were the droid landing ships landing on the opposite side of the planet from their target?

Good stuff.
This post was edited on 3/14/10 at 12:27 pm
Posted by iggle
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 3/14/10 at 12:35 pm to
I thought his best points were that they didn't focus on a main character in the beginning (leaving us not caring much about many characters) and having too many stories going on at the end, about 4. The other movies were more successful when they culminated down at the end to 1 or 2 stories. Also, the critic of the light saber fights was good and could be applied to all three prequels.
Posted by alajones
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Posted on 3/14/10 at 12:48 pm to

Really there is no need to go past #1.
Posted by sneakytiger
Member since Oct 2007
2497 posts
Posted on 3/14/10 at 2:06 pm to
Yeah I mean the Phantom Menace review really covered all 3 movies
Posted by Volvagia
Fort Worth
Member since Mar 2006
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Posted on 3/14/10 at 2:13 pm to
quote:

The best observation he made was how the Jedi landed on Naboo hiding in a droid drop ship, quickly find the gungan lair where they are told the naboo surface city was on the other side of the planet.

So why were the droid landing ships landing on the opposite side of the planet from their target?


And the sad thing is I didn't even think of this until he said it.
Posted by MSTiger33
Member since Oct 2007
21448 posts
Posted on 3/14/10 at 2:21 pm to
I like the kid size helmet and googles in the ship
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 3/14/10 at 2:25 pm to
quote:

So why were the droid landing ships landing on the opposite side of the planet from their target?


well if they are invading the planet why wouldn't they send troops all over? He made better observations such as why would you take a robot on wheels, and goofy amphibian type creature and a teen aged girl to look for a ship part on a planet you is controlled by gangsters? 2 Why would the sith lord want to kill the queen when he needs her to call the vote of no confidence?
Posted by alajones
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Posted on 3/14/10 at 3:37 pm to
I'm through part four. I frankly think most of this stuff is "why do it that way", which you could do to just about every movie. The entirety of part 1 and the first half of part 2 where he talks about characters and plot and the differences between the the first and second trilogy are the most important points.
Posted by Scoop
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Posted on 3/14/10 at 3:38 pm to
I didn't buy his points about light saber duals between the trilogies at all. That was his weakest argument to me.

It made perfect sense to me that the light saber duals in the original trilogies were kinda simplistic because you had first two older, past their prime guys that hadn't swung a saber in 20 years then later one of those guys against a kid that didn't know much what he was doing.

For that reason, it made perfect sense for the the sith/Jedi to be slinging it back when the Jedi order was alive and well with dudes at the top of their game.

That's how I saw it anyway.

So that was the one time the dude shot an airball to me.
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
60764 posts
Posted on 3/14/10 at 4:02 pm to
quote:

I didn't buy his points about light saber duals between the trilogies at all. That was his weakest argument to me.


Nah, that is spot on, the light sabre battles in the new movies are over choreographed, dudes flying around at super speeds, not really interesting at all.
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